robb_o Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Should i replace my XTR v-brakes on my Pashley with a set of Magura HS33?I mean, are they really all that more powerful?Surely they are heavier?And working on them is gonna be a reet jam as opposed to V's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod_biker_barney Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Well...The XTR's are most *PROBABLY* easier to maintaine, however, Maguras are pretty powerful and provide a nice 'feel' to them...i say this as i've never felt the XTR... Barney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 just leave them.vee's can work more powerfully than HS33'swhat pad setup are you using?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted May 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 just some black fibrax pads (the rubbers slotted into the standard XTR pad holders).need to buy some new ones as they are badly worn.this is what's got me thinking about Maguras.ive heard koolstop are good pads?what about the onza v-dapters that tarty bikes sell? then i could run magura pads?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 (edited) just some black fibrax pads (the rubbers slotted into the standard XTR pad holders).need to buy some new ones as they are badly worn.this is what's got me thinking about Maguras.ive heard koolstop are good pads?what about the onza v-dapters that tarty bikes sell? then i could run magura pads?!koolstops suck...What you need is Plazmatic CRV's and run a grindMuch much better then.You could get some Heatsink vee backings and get some joy pads (phat pads) that setup would be amazing.Also get some decent cable (linear slick cable) this will take all the spongyness away.http://www.heatsinkbikes.com/?p=brakepads go on there and scroll down to the vee backingshttp://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=10005 theres the Plazmatic CRV's. Edited May 29, 2007 by Grant H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 I vote for leave them. You can set them up to work just as well (although Ive found it harder to set V's up well)as grant says get some heatsink pads maybe even some V coust pads? and a grind and it'll work beasty. Use the search to find out other people's V brake setups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 you should ditch the xtrs, but not get a magura...they sucksome deore/sd7 arms would work far better than the shoddy parallel push system that the xtr uses, if you can stretch to some avid ultimate arms, then even better! they really are worth every penny, and as said before, linear slick cable does wonders!pad choice, well, crvs and spanish flies are very good pads, cept for when they get wet....coust material in heatsink v backings is my favorite though, but with heatsink backings, you can put any magura pad material in it dont bother with v daptors, they are gash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 (edited) XTR 4tw everytime, so much better, just get petter pads, maybe cables too. with a plaz on 1 side an reds or something similar the other side (hans rey set up i do believe)B Edited May 29, 2007 by gianttrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted May 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 cool thanks for all the responses.what brand are these 'linear slick cables'?i need to know so i can google them.i've always used cheap jagwire cables lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 odyssey...http://www.customriders.com/prodshow.asp?p...=1001&sidehop=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 they are oddysey.i didnt much like mine, preffered my xtr cable/nokon was also awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted May 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 will the cable fit inside my existing cable housing?i'm seeing different sizing here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 just get the inner and outer cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted May 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 don't suppose anyone has a pair of the heatsink backings they are willing to sell?£19 is a bit much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 don't suppose anyone has a pair of the heatsink backings they are willing to sell?£19 is a bit much Trust me, put those on your XTR vee and they will be awsome! i mean whats £19 when u were considering changin to a magura?But like Paul has said, try and get hold of some SD7 or dewhore arms, they will be much better than your XTRs, due to not having all the linkages.I run a set of avid ultimate on the rear and the they realy are incredible!Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted May 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 I have SD7s on my XC bike, tried swapping them over for a bit but found that the XTRs are more powerful.They feel spongier, but thats cos they are flexing the frame unlike the SD7s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza wanabe Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 (edited) Yes replace the sd7's with hs33's just mainly because hs33 are traditional trial brakes and to me they are more comfortable and reliable but its up to you use what ever you feel more comfortable with good luck on making your mind up. Edited May 29, 2007 by onza wanabe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEX@BIKETRIALSFUN Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Well i went from v brakes to hs33’s found them so much better I would say there are better but you have to find out you self what you like more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 just leave them.vee's can work more powerfully than HS33'swhat pad setup are you using??I just cant imagine the best vee setup working and feeling nicer than the best maggie setup. What would make a vee better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 more hold, lighter lever veel, more adjustable, pads last longer, quieter, spair parts can be bought in any bike shope all over the wolrd, pads can be replaced easier and quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 more hold, lighter lever veel, more adjustable, pads last longer, quieter, spair parts can be bought in any bike shope all over the wolrd, pads can be replaced easier and quicker.and...no hoses to split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 (edited) more hold, lighter lever veel, more adjustable, pads last longer, quieter, spair parts can be bought in any bike shop all over the world, pads can be replaced easier and quicker.I was kind of getting at, why do they have more hold? and if they do for example if your using v-daptors with maggie pads, why would they last longer? But yeh I do agree with the rest.and...no hoses to split dry.gifOh yeh and no wires to snap???? Edited May 29, 2007 by afroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 alright well i'm definately gonna get the odyssey cable for my rear brake asap.i'm still umming and ahhing about the brake pads...but basically you lot have succeeded in putting me off the idea of maggys (saving me a lot of moneys) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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