Smoking?

[poopipe]

Maybe i'm wrong but he sounds like a retard. Extacy is a drug which anyone unknowninly (sp?) can be illergic to and cause almost instant death (i think). Which is really a dumb idea, really.

Also most people who try a class a drug for the first time will just go nuts. They wouldn't actually be able to control their feelings as they aren't aware of it as to a common user.

Its pretty uncommon to be allergic to MDMA - especially compared to something like peanuts.

I wouldn't quite agree with the statement though - the best MDMA related psychological experiment is to take pills for a while then one night go somewhere where everybody is on them but don't take any yourself. It really kicks the whole "reach for the lasers", "universal love" feeling in the bollocks

do pills still do that or have they stopped putting smack in them ?

Edited May 11, 2007 by poopipe

[Al_Fel]

In my opinion, you can't comment (well you can, but its null and void) until you've tried something... Don't turn round and say oh i'll go murder someone and you can't comment because you haven't murdered someone, this is totally different.

I know loads of people who absolutly hated drugs of all kind, After they experimented with them (no force) they realised there was another side of things, often unsaid.

If you tried something and still had the same belief/feelings afterwards then fair enough. But to be so naieve is just stupid imo.

As for being so proud of drug use etc as you say some are, I personally dont like to say much because I feel the same about you, anyone who goes round shouting about what they've done is a complete tit and chances are the rest of the world thinks the same. Such a huge magority of people do drugs (like weed/cocain/pils) but its mostly the tits you hear bragging about it, the high powered business executive that uses it to "get away from it all" on a friday night wont mention it to anyone...

I personally have huge respect for drugs, I've turned down free cocain/pills/mdma/weed more times than I can remember, I promise you this. Doing MDMA (basically the part of ecstasy that does all the good stuff, without any of the added crap (x10)) was the most enlightening thing i've ever done. It made me realise what my body was capable of doing, especially if you just believe. And once again, in my opinion its something everyone should experience.

My old psychology teacher told our class that, off the record obviously but he actually recomended people do ecstasy just to expeirence that side of things.

I just beg you dont be so niaeve about things are realise its more the politics behind drugs which keeps them "evil" rather than the product themselves.

Oh right you've totally changed my opinion i'm now going to shoot up and see how great that is. Expect to see me on the streets probably trying to rob your bike. But on the plus side I'll be enlightened.

I don't have to try something to know what its like. I do have an imagination and like you said the human brain is a powerful device. For example I've had dreams and done something i'd never done before but it felt the exact same when I actually did it.

people that defend drugs are fools in my opinion. This bull shit that ever should try everything once makes me laugh aswell. maybe you should try cutting your cock off? then again you might have already done that on an acid trip.

[Tomm]

ok well seeing as im stoned and you made the comment, why don't you back it up? How can I not say what I did but you can say '100% will be unfit, smell horrible and harm other people.' without backing that up?

Yeah, fair enough. What I meant to say was that smoking makes you unfit, because it does. Every cigarette you smoke is decreasing your athletic ability, aside from all the long-term effects. Whether you 'balance' that with more-than-average exercise is a completely different matter and not that important.

Does anyone think that smelling of fags is a good thing? I doubt it. Harm other people? Every time you smoke in a public place.

I personally think smoking is retarded like I said, but it doesn't really bother me what choices other people make, that's up to them. It's when they start affecting my life as a result of their retarded decisions (I.e. passive smoking) that pisses me off.

In terms of stoners, they don't really bother me that much. It's a choice they've made and 99% of the time it's done in their home. Also, I can see the point of smoking weed, I really just can't see the point in tobacco.

And allergy to MDMA is complete toss. People die because they either have accidents, or they drink too much water, or too little.

[Callum Trialsin]

I dont mind it. dont do it myself though, not enough short term effects for me, much prefer the marijuana.

this guy knows the way forward, dont touch fags but do smoke the above

edit: put this post in without reading the whole thread, many of my mates smoke fags and marijuana but i have always said to myself that i wouldnt bother smoking fags as i see them as pointless. smoking a spliff is my way of chilling out and i come home stoned and do like 3 hours revsion straight then i cant see how its bad for me. its also my choice even though it is ilegal that is the risk i have chosen to take when smoking it. Another point i would like to put forward is the fact that people are probably seeing me as some sort of druggie who has no hobbies aparts from trials, however i play football regular and not being big headed or anything but i have more talent than any of the players in my year when they dont touch smoking anything or drinking. But i do draw the line at marijuana.

Edited May 11, 2007 by Callum Trialsin

[boon racoon]

my opinion on things like this (and i'd expect the same from everyone else towards me) is that i don't care what people do with themselves as long as it doesn't make them a twat. i can stand people doing things which i might not enjoy but they do, but i can't stand people being twats.

that goes for pretty much anything.

Edited May 11, 2007 by the boon

[Walleee]

Yeah, fair enough. What I meant to say was that smoking makes you unfit, because it does. Every cigarette you smoke is decreasing your athletic ability, aside from all the long-term effects. Whether you 'balance' that with more-than-average exercise is a completely different matter and not that important.

Does anyone think that smelling of fags is a good thing? I doubt it. Harm other people? Every time you smoke in a public place.

I personally think smoking is retarded like I said, but it doesn't really bother me what choices other people make, that's up to them. It's when they start affecting my life as a result of their retarded decisions (I.e. passive smoking) that pisses me off.

In terms of stoners, they don't really bother me that much. It's a choice they've made and 99% of the time it's done in their home. Also, I can see the point of smoking weed, I really just can't see the point in tobacco.

And allergy to MDMA is complete toss. People die because they either have accidents, or they drink too much water, or too little.

I don't think smelling of fags is good at all, but 100% of smokers don't smell of fags, and with regarding to harming people everytime I smoke in a public place, that's not true, what about when im at the end of a ride having my unwinding smoke in the forest, apart from those who are with me, who are smoking themselves, im probobly doing less damage to people than one trip to the shops in your car does. I wouldn't smoke a joint down the street but people smoke fags in the street, walking past young children etc? Stinking.

I think we agree on the tobacco thing anyway. pretty pointless IMO.

[JonMack]

I don't smoke, but it doesn't bother me if other people do. Although if I see someone who doesn't smoke normally smoking at a party or something I will ask them why they're doing it, but it's their choice so... whatever!!

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

Never smoked in my life so I cant really comment, it isnt nice smelling though

Edited May 11, 2007 by Has anyone seen my shoe?

[Fixed Pants™]

Green smells sooooooooooo f**king nice.

I think the gov or who ever should just ban smoking completely. That way, the shitheads that don't care if it's illegal can die, people that deserve to live quit 'cos it's illegal.

[Danny Kearns]

I smoke, have done for 5 years now. I did enjoy it. This past year i have began to want to quit but have not got the will power. I didn't mind smoking before i started and i still don't now.

People really annoy me when they say "i just walk in to a bar and all i can smell is fags and it annoys me" well if it annoys you, then f**k off to another bar and stop complaining about it.

If you don't like smoking then don't do it. Simple as that, but no need to go judging people because they smoke. I go on rides sometime and just light up a fag, people's instant reaction "he's a chav" when full well i am not.

I will admit though. For the love of god dont start smoking.

Another thing is, people say "i dont smoke but i do drink". In my eyes drink kills alot more people and cause's alot more trouble. I can have a fag and am still the same person, i can smoke 20 fags and feel the same person. But you cant drink 20 pints and feel the same person, you feel liek you own the world and start a fight cause somebody so much as blinks at you. Drinking is pointless and pathetic in my eyes.

As for weed etc. That stuffs just f**king stupid. Messes with your head big style. Can cause brain damage. People also say it isnt addictive. It full bloody well is. My mate is hooked. If he goes a night without it he starts throwing up and going hot and cold.

Final few tips-

- Dont start smoking, any drugs or drinking alcohol.

- Smoking, drugs, alcohol is not cool or fun.

and finally.

Peace out.

Danny.

[Fixed Pants™]

But smoking is pointless, people do stuff for the things it does to them, that's why alcohol is accepted. I guess.

And the bit about where more people die from drinking is bollocks.

And if someone f**ked off to another pub there would blatantly be smokers there too.

[Barbra]

Not neccesarily, it depends on the person how they react to drink, i never fight. I just become over friendly and become truthfull lol. Smoking nahh i hate it, it does nothing good for you to be honest.

[Danny Kearns]

But smoking is pointless, people do stuff for the things it does to them, that's why alcohol is accepted. I guess.

And the bit about where more people die from drinking is bollocks.

And if someone f**ked off to another pub there would blatantly be smokers there too.

Drinking is pointless. Just go and waste alot of money you end up puking up later on that night and feeling like shit because the rooms spinning. It also leads to fighting/arguing with friends most of the time.

You can say what you want. We are never all going to agree on this because there are smokers and none smokers on here. Most of the riders i ride with don't give a shit if i smoke. I really dont see what the big deal with people having a problem with people smoking round them. 9 times out of 10 its because they want to try it or actually don't like it. Meh i can't be arsed. I gave my view in that other post.

Danny.

[SaltWaterHippo]

I assume you mean cigarettes, I've never tried one before, But I dont mind if people smoke, I just see it as a bad habbit, I've tried a few cigars and occasionally marijuana like most teenagers

[Fixed Pants™]

Drinking is pointless. Just go and waste alot of money you end up puking up later on that night and feeling like shit because the rooms spinning.

How the f**k can you say that?! You're just burning paper with some leaves in it.

[Token]

Drinking is pointless. Just go and waste alot of money you end up puking up later on that night and feeling like shit because the rooms spinning. It also leads to fighting/arguing with friends most of the time.

People drink to become more sociable, the confidence is increased and if you don't over do it then you feel good and you could end up with a nice girl at the end of the evening. Smoking does..... oh it stops a short craving.

[boon racoon]

People really annoy me when they say "i just walk in to a bar and all i can smell is fags and it annoys me" well if it annoys you, then f**k off to another bar and stop complaining about it.

you proved my point about people taking a choice to do something and being a twat about it.

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

On my 18th birthday smoking is being banned in pubs and bars

[SaltWaterHippo]

Saying something like "drinking is pointless" is a bit narrowminded becuase it effects different people differently.

[Bucky]

yeah i smoke and have for about 3 years now.

smoke mostly when im drive and least at work, but only smoked in front of family for about 2 years, always borrow em of my mum but would never smoke near my dad, he knows but dosnt approve.

he also went mental when my 18yr old sister started smoking and blamed me so i stay off the subject.

[ilikeriding]

Agreed.

You smell bad

It costs your money to smell bad

Girls do not find it 'cool' or 'attractive'

You die early

Sounds f**king stupid to me.

I'll only smoke if it's got Class C in it, otherwise I'm on alcohol or such. No point just smoking tobacco. Absolutely pointless.

erm doesnt class C tick all those boxes?

also i have no idea how people can say smoking is pointless but smoking weed isnt- both are enjoyable to different people and both have nasty side effects.

Edited May 11, 2007 by afroman

[Ali C]

I HATE smoking with a passion! I have come really close to ripping a fag out of someones mouth a few times, mainly when riding comps. I am there riding getting fresh air, I am tired and out of breath from a section and I get a deep breath of smoke THATS NOT ON!! Twats!

You can do it in your home, but dont invite me around. You can smoke lots on your own, but if you stink I dont wanna know you.

I hate weed too, Why do you need it to have a good time? are you too sad and boring not to have a laugh without altering your mind? I have tried weed and I thought it sucked, it was a bit weird at first, but it just got annoying after a bit.

I dont like alcohol either, why do people feel the need to get wasted every week? could they not have the same fun sober? I know I could!

[Captain Scarlet]

I never tried and don't plan to, but I'm getting annoyed with the media announcing all this "Smoke free" areas and rubbish, and how you can't smoke in your car just in case someone doesn't like it. Surely its your car, your rules.

And banning smoking in pubs and social clubs, thats just ridiculous, I thought the pub atmosphere was smoke and booze?

But then again, I hate seeing people my age walking around with fags in their hands, I mean they don't have any superiour status from any other kid just because they smoke?

So its a no for me, but I don't mind it in pub/bars etc.

EDIT:

why do people feel the need to get wasted every week?

I ditto that, I don't mind alcoholic beverages when you only have the odd few and drink sensibly, but whats the fun in getting drunk?, apart from walking round like a loon and having no recollection of what you did, or how close you got to getting killed the night before?

Pathetic people.

Edited May 11, 2007 by thutley

[squince]

I smoke when im drunk.

I smoke weed occasionally, dont think im going to do it again though, dont really like it.

[Dan6061]

Bit of a stupid question really?

It's like asking "Shall I give myself AIDs?"

It might take a while, but it'll kill you in the end...

Really dislike smoking. Hate the way it smells, making my clothes, hair and skin stink, how it fills up rooms quickly, making it more difficult to breathe...everything about it.

Plus my step-dad died from throat cancer.