BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Like a recent post about the hydrolic gear shifters i have found a gearbox No Smoke MTB is an Italian company who has come up with a gear box transmission solution. By using two 11 sprocket cassettes in parallel, the chain is shunted using rollers on tracks and guides to elicit 11 speeds of useable gears. All okay so far, but what’s interesting is that it’s been designed to allow gear changes under pressure – for example, when climbing or sprinting – which breaks from the norm of other systems which are designed for gravity assisted applications like downhill racing. It’s still just a prototype and the detail does not conform to the fast developing G- Box standard which could hinder its future. looks great and very heavy Do you think that this will be a big time seller gear shifters look good but gripshifts Hope you like.Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrider101 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 off topic why did you post this twice ?on topic looks really heavy and i hate gripshifts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 off topic why did you post this twice ?on topic looks really heavy and i hate gripshiftsi didnt mean to i have deleted the old one. The gripshifts let it down i no Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrider101 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 its no good for trials though it would be cool to look at on a trials bike lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 It's cool that companies are trying to push along new ideas like this, but that system looks pretty heavy, not to mention the fact they went to all that trouble of sorting out the gearing so it worked well, then put a bloody gripshift on it. They went out of fashion over a decade ago now, you'd have thought they'd have covered their bases with something as simple as that?Looks like it'd be mad expensive to order replacement parts for it, and if you had to have it serviced by a bike shop the labour charge would be horrific... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 It's cool that companies are trying to push along new ideas like this, but that system looks pretty heavy, not to mention the fact they went to all that trouble of sorting out the gearing so it worked well, then put a bloody gripshift on it. They went out of fashion over a decade ago now, you'd have thought they'd have covered their bases with something as simple as that?Looks like it'd be mad expensive to order replacement parts for it, and if you had to have it serviced by a bike shop the labour charge would be horrific...The gearbox cost £1250. Yer i agree why gripshift.. :S Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 (edited) looks like an over complicated solution to a problem that doesnt even exist, normal gears would be alot easier to maintain and run. Edited May 8, 2007 by afroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 looks like an over complicated solution to a problem that doesnt even exist, normal gears would be alot easier to maintain and run.Its ment to be amazingly fast !! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shansen Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 looks like it give wicked clearance lol what a wast of money Seb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 (edited) Been out for ages.Honda make a version of it aswell Edited May 8, 2007 by Si-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 i was guna say, i saw a frame with a gear box over a year ago now, only really for downhill though.the good thing about it is that you can change gears while rolling and the chain wont jump off the sprockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 i was guna say, i saw a frame with a gear box over a year ago now, only really for downhill though.the good thing about it is that you can change gears while rolling and the chain wont jump off the sprockets.Most d/h riders would be dead if then ran normal gears then. If you mean the chain fully comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Most d/h riders would be dead if then ran normal gears then. If you mean the chain fully comes off.i meant when you change gears and it jumps all over the place.like what happened today when you were on robs bike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod Man Leo Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I seem to remember reading somewere that GT have the first non-prototype (thats mass produced) internal Geer-box inside thier 2007 DHI-Drive or ruckus or one of thier FR/DH rigs ,it looks very intresing but i think it would be a bugger if You need to service it at all. Heres a Pic of the inside of the Honda INX-4But theese days its nothing special i mean Be-One have one GT have one Shimano Have one Mountain Cycle, Nicolia Have one and specialzed are developing one to.I cant see it being that popular i mean you realy cannot falt the got ol Crank and rear mech.I am certen this is onley a Downhill/freeride phase, i very much doubt seeing any sort of one in the trials world any time soon.ThanksLeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 could just get a hub that has the gearing system built inside (rohloff? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 All these are cable, this is the world first hydrolic Sorry if i didnt say this before Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial-biker-ryan Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 lol../.. and what the f**k is wrong with a normal one?.. i mean sheesh.. blimy.. looks more like somthing from startreck... than a pushbike.. lol..Looks kool though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 lol../.. and what the f**k is wrong with a normal one?.. i mean sheesh.. blimy.. looks more like somthing from startreck... than a pushbike.. lol..Looks kool though..There is nothing wrong with the normal 1 Just a special one for a minted person willing to waste 1250 quid Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh_verner Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I saw one of the gearboxes on the new down hill Diamondback ( of all bikes) the guy said that Diamondback bought the idea off a german guy and it was theres first but who cares its a good idea ,but isnt this TRIALS- forum not Downhill-Forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I saw one of the gearboxes on the new down hill Diamondback ( of all bikes) the guy said that Diamondback bought the idea off a german guy and it was theres first but who cares its a good idea ,but isnt this TRIALS- forum not Downhill-Forum?True i suppose slightly of topic but it is a general part for a bike it isnt downhill specific Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 interesting, bound to be some downhillers running that at some point, lol but probably a smaller unit, old design though, saw something similar to that in mbuk 5-6 years ago, can't remeber the make, but the bike was yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 You must admit it looks extremly cool Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 You must admit it looks extremly cool Ben yes, yes it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 (edited) Is it really necessary? Edited May 8, 2007 by Dan6061 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Is it really necessary? Erm not to a normal rider who goes to the shop, but to a downhiller or some fast moving biker then i would say yes. Fast gear changing is esential Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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