BenLeacock™ Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 well im geting a proper old school frame seen of one of me feinds. zoo lynx and might get some new forks as well so think about a disc, but il probil just stick to me vees as its all ways worked and easy to fix if anything goes wrong. liamgood idea 'old school' will look good Talk to you later !! BYE Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 I can't believe you've all said nothing but bad things about these brakes and that "their not worth the money" (debatable anyway) despite the fact none of you have used them.Did you even look at the other topic and read what people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY USED THEM have said about them? You obviously don't know much about brakes (based on not knowing vee's could be better than a hs33) so why jump to conclusions?Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Yer i agree, they have reveiws that say they have amazing stopping power. I think the maggies are still better though Benyou thought vee's were all shit and you've never used a echo brake, so what supports that statement? the fact that you like maggies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil Jsy Chris Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 My friend has just brought an echo CNC rim brake. They are very good but also very expensive. I definitely think that for the money a magura HS33 would be better. I also much prefer the lever shape of a HS33.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I can't believe you've all said nothing but bad things about these brakes and that "their not worth the money" (debatable anyway) despite the fact none of you have used them.Did you even look at the other topic and read what people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY USED THEM have said about them? You obviously don't know much about brakes (based on not knowing vee's could be better than a hs33) so why jump to conclusions?Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it.Yer good call, i have heard of better vee brakes but never really looked into them. I have also read some reviews and people say they are great brakes i aint saying they are crap but i still cant fault the magura.you thought vee's were all shit and you've never used a echo brake, so what supports that statement? the fact that you like maggies?Why did u say exactly the same as the person about you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onza-rider Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I have never run them. Bigman has a amazing v brake on his bike and its immense. But i have always liked magura's so i am sticking with them.Danny.To good to let go aint they BenTotaly Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I have an echo rear brake.I personally think it is a vast improvement over the normal magura, seeing pictures does not do them justice. They really are worth £135 no doubt about that. The lever body is perfcetly machined to a smooth shiney surface with all the excess material removed, the way the hose is positioned to go into the lever makes it near impossible to actually piece the hosing. The slaves themselves are very well refined, they have shorter and fatter pad holders (metal bit that pokes out not sure of the name). They are longer so they allow more adjustment too.The tpa is ALOT stronger than the magura ones, I have broken 7 of the 05/06 magura tpas within days of having them, the echo one is solid as, even the tpa adjsuter itself is machined. The lever blades are longer and thus give more power, the fact you get some damn nice CNC brake mounts too and some echo pads.I have learnt one thing over the years, you get what you pay for. If you are willing to spend the money on good products you will reap the rewards.I have used rear vees and discs too, and so far the echo brake is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I have an echo rear brake.I personally think it is a vast improvement over the normal magura, seeing pictures does not do them justice. They really are worth £135 no doubt about that. The lever body is perfcetly machined to a smooth shiney surface with all the excess material removed, the way the hose is positioned to go into the lever makes it near impossible to actually piece the hosing. The slaves themselves are very well refined, they have shorter and fatter pad holders (metal bit that pokes out not sure of the name). They are longer so they allow more adjustment too.The tpa is ALOT stronger than the magura ones, I have broken 7 of the 05/06 magura tpas within days of having them, the echo one is solid as, even the tpa adjsuter itself is machined. The lever blades are longer and thus give more power, the fact you get some damn nice CNC brake mounts too and some echo pads.I have learnt one thing over the years, you get what you pay for. If you are willing to spend the money on good products you will reap the rewards.I have used rear vees and discs too, and so far the echo brake is the best.Cool thanks the first person to comment who owns the brake I agree what you pay for you get Maybe have to invest in them if i get some more possitive replys Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shansen Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Vees are like the best thing in the world but its just a different feel to Maggie's to be honest i think the cnc break is a wast of time and all money is better spent on Maggie with braided hose and mint pads or somefin...Seb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boswell Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 (edited) Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it. Edited May 8, 2007 by mr ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionmod Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I can't believe you've all said nothing but bad things about these brakes and that "their not worth the money" (debatable anyway) despite the fact none of you have used them.Did you even look at the other topic and read what people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY USED THEM have said about them? You obviously don't know much about brakes (based on not knowing vee's could be better than a hs33) so why jump to conclusions?Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it.I agree you canrt say things about what they work like, they probily do work beter. Just from what you do read just makes them sound like they are the same as hs33, just a bit lighter. im not trying to say they are comply poo as im not tryng to say that. And i agree about the vbrake can be beter then maggies, just they need to set up right and need good parts eg. leavers and arms. But as you said about the advert dont knock them before you tryed them...... just my opinon thats all. liam Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it.It's a little different lypton ice tea costs about 50p to try and the echo cnc breaks costs 80 £135. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it.It's a little different lypton ice tea costs about 50p to try and the echo cnc breaks costs £80. Boswell, you aren't helping at all , you can see what he is saying, he means don't just hate it because its expensive, you get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 well i've tried the new echo brakes and didn't like em at all, the lever blades are 2 rattly compared to mags, and to be honest i can't see where there value is for the extra money, so i'd stick to maggies there cheaper and can work well if set up properly (same goes for v's btw), i would say you don't get what you pay for with the echo's, you do with mags, Ben G WST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 well i've tried the new echo brakes and didn't like em at all, the lever blades are 2 rattly compared to mags, and to be honest i can't see where there value is for the extra money, so i'd stick to maggies there cheaper and can work well if set up properly (same goes for v's btw), i would say you don't get what you pay for with the echo's, you do with mags, Ben G WSTSo you wouldnt reccomend them ? That seems different, people say that they are great ? I agree i would just stick with mags (or a powerful disk) but when something new comes out i like to hear from riders who have used it Thank your for you opinion Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 So you wouldnt reccomend them ? That seems different, people say that they are great ? I agree i would just stick with mags (or a powerful disk) but when something new comes out i like to hear from riders who have used it Thank your for you opinion Ben i tried them on beau'sbike and wasn't impressed, he'd by all acounts had trouble with them, last i saw he had a mag on the front? they're okay but nothing to report home about, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 i tried them on beau'sbike and wasn't impressed, he'd by all acounts had trouble with them, last i saw he had a mag on the front? they're okay but nothing to report home about, Ben For there price i would want something amazing and if there getting negitive feedback they aint that good Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 For there price i would want something amazing and if there getting negitive feedback they aint that good Ben true when you consider that i got a complete set of avid sd5 v brakes for £35 that work v well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 true when you consider that i got a complete set of avid sd5 v brakes for £35 that work v wellThat is a great buy I think im going to stick with the trusty mags Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Its like the lypton ice tea advert..... don't knock it till you try it.It's a little different lypton ice tea costs about 50p to try and the echo cnc breaks costs £80. But this same rule applies to both... "if your too skint to buy, find a friend and try" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 But this same rule applies to both... "if your too skint to buy, find a friend and try"lol very true Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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