ben_travis Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Who has put a water bleed on a deng brake?If you have, did you do anything normal to a standard magura. Mine seems to be bleeding pretty poorly, and the pads arent moving very far for the amount of lever pull...some thoughts please??ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 You mean you can't get the air out?Get the angle of the lever right, the master cylinder needs to fill up before the water goes through the hose to the calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted May 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 i have been doing it horizontal (both upside down and right way up) did a bath bleed as well. hmmm, maybe im paranoid, but its jut not pulling like it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Roach Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 The problem you may have is that the water is turning white when it comes out the tail end of the bleed, this is because there is still hydraulic oil inside the brake. 1.)Fill your bath up, 2.)take the brake apart, blow throw the hoosing, youll see all the crap come out, 3.) Then on the cylinders, get some plyers and pull then push the pistion to clear all the oil out. 4.) Pull the lever under the water to fill it up, 5.) Put it back together. sorry if this doesnt make sense but it work brilliant for me.cheersnafan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 The problem you may have is that the water is turning white when it comes out the tail end of the bleed, this is because there is still hydraulic oil inside the brake. 1.)Fill your bath up, 2.)take the brake apart, blow throw the hoosing, youll see all the crap come out, 3.) Then on the cylinders, get some plyers and pull then push the pistion to clear all the oil out. 4.) Pull the lever under the water to fill it up, 5.) Put it back together. sorry if this doesnt make sense but it work brilliant for me.cheersnafanThat seems a good idea.(not taking the piss) Flushing it through (with the syringe) a load of times would be easier i think though, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 chocolate_bikes is right, but i would use fatpants' way, and i have. was speaking to a mate of mine today, dan brooker. he has water in his echo brake, and his brake is insanely good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Roach Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 chocolate_bikes is right, but i would use fatpants' way, and i have. was speaking to a mate of mine today, dan brooker. he has water in his echo brake, and his brake is insanely goodyes flushing is ok with a syringe, but it is soo much easier in the bath, as it takes all of the oil out with out any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Ben, try filling the brake up, then remove the "lever" bleed pipe, BUT keep pumping oil/water through the lever so it "overflows" and spills out, then put the grub screw back in and take the bleed pipe off the back, she should be full to the brim then Thats how i do my brakes all the time, i found when i first started doing the new levers the problem you are having.Waynio....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 i asked one of the tarty bikes blokes (dave or adam can't remember who ) at the bike show and they said the denguras don't really work well with a water bleed .steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 i asked one of the tarty bikes blokes (dave or adam can't remember who ) at the bike show and they said the denguras don't really work well with a water bleed .steveask a magura technician the same question on a magura and he'll say the same thing. Infact from memory the instruction book that comes with a mgaura says in massive lettersUNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD WATER BE USEDbut we all just scribble that bit out eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 you got a manual with yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 with a maggie.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I am running water in mine, its a bnit spongey as I do not think the bleed did very well but it will do for now, waiting for new fittings on my braided hosing before I re-bleed it. They are lush with water bleeds, so responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 with a maggie..haha, i didnt get shit, all i got was a box and 2 brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 haha, i didnt get shit, all i got was a box and 2 brakes2 brakes!! what you do rob a bank Ash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 no, front and back maggies, ffs. when i first started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br3n Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 yes but magura actually went back to the drawing board and said, hmmm, nearly every trials rider in the world uses an hs33 magura, how can we make the lever worse and make the booster weaker than the air it displaces.Ignore anything magura say, they clearly are a breed of their own, Also its never going to be recomended to use water, It will do damage to the internals, at least more so than mineral oil but theyre just covering theyre backs and trying to keep you spendng £50 for 5ml of oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizza Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 did mine, bled fine with a sink bleed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Bath bleed after 1hour of riding it with oil.Must have been 50% oil and 50% air, was dogger! bath bleed after flushing it through 5 - 10 times and constantly pumping the rear brake...the brakes are naturally spongy, but 10x better with a bath bleed, also a nice booster as mine broke X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 ask a magura technician the same question on a magura and he'll say the same thing. Infact from memory the instruction book that comes with a mgaura says in massive lettersUNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD WATER BE USEDbut we all just scribble that bit out eh?Nope, just says that you shouldn't use DOT fluid, just mineral fluid. The usage of water in them came quite a bit after they were originally made, so I doubt they'd have thought ahead that far. If they were actually capable of forward thinking they wouldn't give them such wanky hardware, wanky TPAs and wanky boosters as standard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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