Ryan Blackwell Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Hello guys ive always wanted to go rear disc and have just come into a fair amount of money so i have 2 questions1. Would a avid bb7 203mm rear disc be to powerfull for a monty 221pr if so which size would be more along the right lines.2. Is a monty anygood for street riding or is it just natural.Thanks alot for your time.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) 1. Good god, bloody hell and so on [well, on a more serious note, it shouldn't snap the frame. Monty mounts are really solid...]2. It's got very similar geometry to most of the short mod frames like the A3, short Echo Team, Koxx XTP, T-Pro. It's an awesome bike for natural, good for street although out of the bikes I've had, I prefer the long Team and short GU. Edited April 29, 2007 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Ermm wow 203 on a mod. To be honest the brake would be amazing but theres no need to have a rotar that big the chances you would land or catch the disk are very big and therefore need new disks. A 160 is still a amazing brake on a mod if you want that bit more hold and bite then 185 but i would go bigger than that and get a 203 theres no need for it. I would get a 160 i rode a monty with 160 bb7's front and back and they where pritty darn good infact amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted April 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) Cheers for the replys guys.I think that i will go for a 185 then thanks for the help.And what would would be a good leaver and cable for the bb7 i was looking at an sd7 because there fairly cheap but any other sugestions welcome please.Cheers. Edited April 29, 2007 by baseboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 The SD7 gives a lot of power thanks to the adjustment but develops play very quickly. Mine has at least 2cm of play at the tip of the lever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 what do you mean by play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 what do you mean by play?moving the lever, but it doesn't pull on the cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 got 185bb7 on the backits good, it doesn't fit perfectly so its not as good as it should be but its good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adskivw Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Iv got a Ciguena with twin 203mm BB7's and they are amazing!Defo recomend them, but also been on a mates bike with a 160mm rear disc and that is also good!Depends if you think you will catch them or not!They do look Mahoosive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted April 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Wow that dose look massive.Did you have any problems setting it up mate and has yours slipped one or twice.Oh and also what cable and leaver are you running.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adskivw Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 XTR Levers, Avid Full metal jacket cables (just with out the metal bits, lol) At first when it was bedding in it was a nightmare but not its awsome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted April 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 So im thinking of getting the 203 on the rear.so dose anybody no how strong the rear disc mount is on a monty 221pr.How long did yours take to bed in mate.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenhopper Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 How long did yours take to bed in mate.Have you any mates that ride Downhill or fast XC?? Stick the new brake on one of those bikes & take it out for the day. It'll come back nicely bedded in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanLegend Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I run/ran 180mm f&r on my 221 PR (Hope's... Not Avid), and they are ridiculous, almost TOO powerful, they are basically on or off! Seriously, 203 will be completely overkill, and you are much more likely to catch them on sidehops etc. I'm a bit of a rail and gap drop fan, and rear disc did concern me a bit, hence going for 180 over 160, but seriously the power and hold is ridiculous!As for bedding in, don't make the mistake of ragging it down a hill and just dragging the brake, as it will glaze over. Just go at a jogging pace, and lightly dab the brake every 5 seconds or so. Do that for a while, pour some nice fresh cold water on the caliper and rotor, and repeat. Mine was absolutely insane after about 15 minutes, then after a day it just took the p***!(Wish my stock had a rear disc mount ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Cheers for that last reply mate.Do you think they will be as good as a hope though being a cable disc and all.So you dont advise a 203 lol i kind of thorght that would be the best but are they as good as a magura like do how do they compare in hold and lock.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecoust Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 hi bud i run a monty 221ti with 180 discs front and rear and they are awesome 205 isnt really needed and it will be easyer to hit a 205. go for the 185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanLegend Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Cheers for that last reply mate.Do you think they will be as good as a hope though being a cable disc and all.So you dont advise a 203 lol i kind of thorght that would be the best but are they as good as a magura like do how do they compare in hold and lock.Cheers.Hold and lock is easily as good, if not better than any magura I've tried with a grind. Other riders actually laughed on a recent ride because my brake was holding on ups when my back wheel wasn't even on top/on the edge of the wall, it was actually holding me on the flat face of the wall!! The combination of decent 180mm brake and small mod wheel means there is barely any flex (just make sure you build the rear wheel 4 cross, nice and tight).I'm sure the Avid would be much the same. I know what they are like having used one on my stock (albeit on the front), they are more than capable. The only bad thing I've heard about rear Avid's is the lack of feel at the lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I also thorght the same about the leaver i take it you mean spongeness.When i thorght about a 203 rear disc i was going for all out power i sidehop to the right so thats not a huge problem but my main concern was snapping the disc mount do you think theres any chance of that with the avid 203.And could anybody sugest a solid but smooth cable for the avid please.Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanLegend Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Apparantly it's not actually spongeyness... It's a lack of feel, the brake feels "wooden" almost. With a Hope it is a little easier to modulate, you can actually feel when the pads are just touching or fulling locked.But having not used one on my own bike, I can't really say anything more. Just something I've heard a few people say now. Lots of people run them successfully so I wouldn't worry!203 shouldn't really cause the PR too many problems, but then again it would be like a massive on/off switch I should think! The modulation discs give you is sooo much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Ok thanks alot for your time and help mate.Was a big help to me.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sheehan! Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Cheers for the replys guys.I think that i will go for a 185 then thanks for the help.And what would would be a good leaver and cable for the bb7 i was looking at an sd7 because there fairly cheap but any other sugestions welcome please.Cheers.Avid Ultimate lever and Odyssey linear slick cable, seeing as you have come into money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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