'new Earth' Found.

[trials rules]

Wouldn't it be quite cool if we did get invaded by aliens...in a funny sorta way. I'd be well up for the fight! bring out the slingshot and marbles!

Also i made a spaceship this morning to get four people there. Anyone want to join me?!

[Barbra]

i'll come, stop off at koxx days on the way back lol

EDIT: If anyone goes there, eventually they'll suck the place dry of oil then leave it to rot!

Edited April 26, 2007 by Barber

[Concussion]

If aliens landed, and they where all friendly like... could you even go to work the next day/week/ever/get on with your life? I'd be running down to wherever they landed and beg them not to talk to politicians and take me with them... and my bike!

...I'm off to build a mound of dirt that resembles a mountain in my garden!

[Fixed Pants™]

Imagine if we managed to communicate with them

Windows live galactic messenger anyone?

That'll be another 30 trillion in bill gates' piggy bank.

Sounds cool.

[ilikeriding]

Have they actually seen it? im sure they said theyve found one but they dont know if it has life.. water. anything of interest ect.

[Joe Sheehan!]

Wouldnt we need to build everything all over again, and is there even oil there??

And how do we plan on taking 6billion+ people that far?

Well, i call shotgun!

Edited April 26, 2007 by sheehan

[Davetrials]

Wouldnt we need to build everything all over again, and is there even oil there??

And how do we plan on taking 6billion+ people that far?

Well, i call shotgun!

Lmao ill wait here on earth so its nice and empty, then ill porbly die years later while there still transporting people to that other planet while all u gay boys are having a shit life on a planet that has nothing on it.

KING DAVE!

Edited April 26, 2007 by Davetrials

[Dan6061]

Wouldnt we need to build everything all over again, and is there even oil there??

And how do we plan on taking 6billion+ people that far?

Well, i call shotgun!

I get T-F shotgun!

I made the topic..which let most of you know about it...

Be an extremely exciting trip.. going the Spain was boring enough...

[spode@thinkbikes]

Well it's sun is at a different stage in it's life cycle right now. Which means up until fairly recently (in evolutionary terms) the sun, and therefore the planet was a lot hotter than it is now. So I would guess that if there is life, it's not more advanced than us. That is of course, basing it around the ideal climate for life to exist being planet earth. For most carbon based life-forms, I guess it would have to be.

Equally, as we don't know what sparks life in the first place then many moons ago, both planets would have been in different situations and the ingredients might not have been right for doing so.

What I think is more important here, is that there is a planet that WE can possibly inhabit.

[RicH_87]

i love how everyone thinks the human race is now advanced enough to exist until the earth ends.

imo we won't get that far at all.

for all we know there could of been many other adavnced races on this very earth who have previously been wiped out.

talk of going to other planets is ridiculous imo, at least by the human race. we are far to greedy and self centered to exist that long.

[poopipe]

i love how everyone thinks the human race is now advanced enough to exist until the earth ends.

imo we won't get that far at all.

for all we know there could of been many other adavnced races on this very earth who have previously been wiped out.

talk of going to other planets is ridiculous imo, at least by the human race. we are far to greedy and self centered to exist that long.

I dont agree we won't leave - we have to really cos we're well overdue for an extinction event already.

If you think about it we could probably start the leaving process now. We just build some big-ass spaceships in orbit, bung a few thousand specially selected people on them and send them floating off into space. They'd take thousands of years to get anywhere so there'd have to be generation after generation of people on them but there's no reason why it couldn't be done.

There's plenty of groovy sci-fi stories on the subject - Stephen Baxter put some particularly good ones together about humans evolving into giant hairy rat things that eat people and shit like that. All good stuff.

[Shaun H]

i love how everyone thinks the human race is now advanced enough to exist until the earth ends.

imo we won't get that far at all.

for all we know there could of been many other adavnced races on this very earth who have previously been wiped out.

talk of going to other planets is ridiculous imo, at least by the human race. we are far to greedy and self centered to exist that long.

There would be blatant evidence of more advanced races having been wiped out on this planet had they existed. We may however be under observation, maybe even a reality TV show like on South Park

Most of my science teachers reckon we'll be long gone before the Earth ends, before the Sun even begins to "die".

Going to other planets is far from ridiculous, it's possible now if enough $$$ was pumped into it. It's just very very very pointless (just like going to the Moon and Mars ) and would take a very long time. The only time when it might be a good idea is if we manage to design a craft which can travel at least half the speed of light (or if humans get very desperate). This brings many stars into achievable "range" for a crew to get there without having to produce another generation of people.

Don't always be pessimistic about this stuff, sci-fi can come true sometimes.

Bit more factual than some of the stuff in here

Edited April 27, 2007 by Shaun H

[Haz]

Less we forget it's 20 Lightyears away.

Or 117 569 996 000 000 miles away.

And the fastest rockets we have travel at about 17 500 miles an hour.

Some simple maths tells us is, going to take around, I'm guessing here...

(answer below)

A LONG f**kING TIME

[ManxTrialSpaz]

Less we forget it's 20 Lightyears away.

Or 117 569 996 000 000 miles away.

And the fastest rockets we have travel at about 17 500 miles an hour.

Some simple maths tells us is, going to take around, I'm guessing here...

(answer below)

A LONG f**kING TIME

Distance/Speed= Time

So...

117,596,996,000,000/17,500mph= 671,982,842.9 hours

Or...

27,999,285.1 days which is

76,710.37 Years.

Or

7,671 decades.

Or

761 Centuries

Or 76 Millenia.

By the time Gliese 581 is reached it will be the year 78717

f**k Warhammer 40k

Edited April 27, 2007 by ManxTrialSpaz

[Dan6061]

Is there even enough fuel in the world for all that?

Infact, you'd burn more fuel carrying the weight of all that fuel...

[spode@thinkbikes]

Well, once you get up to speed, you'll only need fuel if you need to navigate around an asteroid or something...

[Haz]

Distance/Speed= Time

etc, etc, etc...

Like I said, a Long f**king time.

I do know basic math.

[ManxTrialSpaz]

Like I said, a Long f**king time.

I do know basic math.

Well yeah,, it was just kept up for people to follow it,,, nothing more annoying than trying to figure out how someone got to this number or that number. And I'm in set 1 GCSE maths, so I've got used to writing out the eqaution for max marks

Edited April 27, 2007 by ManxTrialSpaz

[poopipe]

think about it a bit more..

if you bung a bunch of geniuses on a big ol spaceship and let them breed like buggery you're pretty quickly going to end up with even more super-geniuses on a big ol spaceship. We're only 5 or 6 generations away from the first powered flights so you can imagine the progress a concentrated mass of clever people with a single goal (ie making the spaceship go faster) could achieve over the course of say 1000 years.

oh yeah - the point of that...

it won't take that long

Edited April 27, 2007 by poopipe

[JoNnY__Mc]

TRA trains there all the time....

[Token]

So say they can get there traveling faster than the speed of light, what will happen while they are travelling at the speed of light? Will they see the past when they look behind them because the light (information/images) wont be able to catch up with them, and the future when they look in front of their space ship?

[Shaun H]

So say they can get there traveling faster than the speed of light, what will happen while they are travelling at the speed of light? Will they see the past when they look behind them because the light (information/images) wont be able to catch up with them, and the future when they look in front of their space ship?

They cannot reach the speed of light.

Especially in a large spaceship. Remember E=mc^2, energy has mass, and if you want to get to the speed of light you'd need to have infinite mass which is impossible.

The closer you get to the speed of light the heavier the ship is and the harder it is to get any faster (as it requires more energy to push the extra mass faster and then this energy also needs more energy to make it go faster etc etc etc etc).

Is there even enough fuel in the world for all that?

Infact, you'd burn more fuel carrying the weight of all that fuel...

Once you've put a relatively small distance (relative to the solar system, we're talking 0.01 lightyears here) between the ship and the solar system you are far enough away that it's gravity has very little affect on the ship and it is basically completely free from any force. From there on you can just "coast" along.

To be honest the gravitational forces from the solar system won't affect a ship much at any point in it's journey....

[Robwalker]

Sorry i havnt read the whole thread, but did you know they havnt actully seen the planet yet?

They only found it because planets can contain flowing water when they are at certian temperatures, which depends on the distance from the sun. And somehow some very clever scientist was able to pinpoint the place of this planet using gravitaional pull in relation with the size of its star.

The only reason they cannot see it is because its so close to the star its light is blinding our sight of it.

Basically there could be life on it but in the form of micro organisms, so its guna be a couple of million or even billions of years before anything actully intelligent starts to evolve. What i do find exciting though, is that if there is life on the planet, its pretty much proves the process of evoltion! Cannot wait to rub it into all the RE teachers. haha

[poopipe]

Cannot wait to rub it into all the RE teachers. haha

They'll just resort to spouting intelligent design if they want to argue - you can't win against that one.

ooh - and before you get too carried away with e=mc squared n all that. There's plenty of theories about stuff that can't go as slow as the speed of light as well - tachyons and other such tiny little wotsits with negative mass. harnessing the power of those little buggers would potentially give you infinite speed (stopping might be an issue though).

my ship full of 10th generation genius inbreds would get that shit locked down in no time.

Edited April 28, 2007 by poopipe

[Fish-Finger-er]

(stopping might be an issue though).

my ship full of 10th generation genius inbreds would get that shit locked down in no time.

surely a light grind and some coust pads would solve the stopping issue pretty quickly.

as for your inbred super human race your thinking of placin on an eggbox and letting them evolve super quickly. one question, materials? where they goin to get them from, and if they dont have a wind tunnel on board, working out aerodynamics could be mighty difficult.and one wrong decision in the research and design process, would mean the testing(Which would be done as there going along using there ship as a test subject, could potentially cause an end to the inbreds and there incestors plights for speedy travel.

also inbreds rarely tend to be intelligent after the 3rd generation, have a look at texas for instance.

one way we could travel there is electronically, i here alot about these emails, that travel the globe in seconds, im sure using them, if we could find a program and attach ourselves(ideally in compressed form) we could move pretty quickly from planet to planet.