Just A Little Poll

[Ash-Kennard]

No, thats not the result of street riding. Thats someones ability to push themselves.

If, like normal people, your riding within your limits, natural riding will always be more challenging because it takes more control, balance and stamina. Street is easier because everythings flat, theres no dodgy edges, no tree roots, no muddy run ups, no lumps of smaller rock to hit. Its just flat floors, flat walls, and easily judgeable distances.

What your talking about is your mentality, not how challenging street is. You can go out and find a rock in the middle of a natural section and try tapping 59", its still going to be harder than the street alternative. OPlus theres the fact that street lines are always smaller. With a field of rocks, if you have the ability you can ride a single line for an hour or so. Where as street riding is generally more a case of finding a wall an inch bigger than the last one you did, then hitting it over and over again till you can make it.

does it really matter, if your enjoying yourself thats all that matters.

i personally like riding natural AND pushing my limits on street

[Krisboats]

does it really matter, if your enjoying yourself thats all that matters.

i personally like riding natural AND pushing my limits on street

I know it doesn't matter. Its just he said its not as challenging as street, when its generally quite a bit more challenging.

I was only making a point

[Scotty Evil1]

Whatever i can find

But i prefer riding natural, have more fun, and theres always more to ride!

can never motivate myself when i go street riding

[moza]

lets face it there are more bashers that get the votes up, but natural by far is the best!

[GTF]

STREET

Never ridden natural cause theres no place her to ride such stuff.

And street is really lovely cause you can have much speed and do lotta street moves combined with trials moves.

STREET TRIALS ***

[Greetings]

Natural, it's just so much more interesting than jumping up a wall and off it.

Might be because I've got no natural spots near me and every time I get to ride rocks I feel like it's the best thing in the world.

[Tommy d]

street riding is generally more a case of finding a wall an inch bigger than the last one you did, then hitting it over and over again till you can make it.

I disagree SO much! There are people who are like that but it's pretty boring and it's not what makes street fun.

I do agree that natural is far more difficult. For me that makes it less fun, but then I just lack the skill. I admit it is satisfying when you manage something on natural, but as soon as I get back to street (flat surfaces etc) I feel like I can breathe again! I think it's because you can ride more comfortably, feel like you're in your element rather than fighting against the surroundings, it lets you get the creativity going. With 'a wall', there's an infinite number of things you can do with it, not just 'hitting it over and over again'...

I guess there are an infinite number of lines in natural I just don't find them very enticing. I like to be able to roll and use speed (almost as if I were riding a bike...)

Phew I'm done. Just ride what you enjoy...

[gilly]

I disagree SO much! There are people who are like that but it's pretty boring and it's not what makes street fun.

I do agree that natural is far more difficult. For me that makes it less fun, but then I just lack the skill. I admit it is satisfying when you manage something on natural, but as soon as I get back to street (flat surfaces etc) I feel like I can breathe again! I think it's because you can ride more comfortably, feel like you're in your element rather than fighting against the surroundings, it lets you get the creativity going. With 'a wall', there's an infinite number of things you can do with it, not just 'hitting it over and over again'...

I guess there are an infinite number of lines in natural I just don't find them very enticing. I like to be able to roll and use speed (almost as if I were riding a bike...)

Phew I'm done. Just ride what you enjoy...

He speaks the truth! Its very rare to find "creative" natural riding, and creativity is what keeps your riding fresh and individual. I'm not saying theres anything bad about natural, merely that i dont enjoy it much, but people that think street is uncreative are WRONG! There are hundreds of different ways over a wall, its just a sad fact of trials that many of the riders on here don't seem to want to explore them all.

[Luke Rainbird]

Natural, it's just so much more interesting than jumping up a wall and off it.

I know where you're coming from, but that depends on how you ride the street to a large extent.

The 'TGS' style riding is like this, and I find it boring on the most part, however I love riding street as it lets you be more creative with your riding. Yeah so it may not be so challenging as natural in general, but there's enough variation out there to make it harder for yourself, and you can link things together to add an extra element to your riding.

There are hundreds of different ways over a wall, its just a sad fact of trials that many of the riders on here don't seem to want to explore them all.

Sums it up a bit I suppose, though in other ways doesn't. You've got to open your mind a lot more in creative street riding, whereas a lot of the time when riding natural you're confined to using certain methods/techniques to overcome part of a section. I'm not saying you can't be creative on natural, just that it's harder

I personally very rarely go near natural, purely because street is a lot more accessible to me, but when I do get to ride it, I love it. Maybe it's because I take some of my street influences with me, and use some non-standard 'natural' techniques, maybe it's because I'm too crap to 'do it right', all I know is that if you open up your mind a bit, and just focus on enjoying yourself, rather than pushing for an extra inch (or whatever else turns you on) then it doesn't matter what you're riding, it's all good

[Krisboats]

I disagree SO much! There are people who are like that but it's pretty boring and it's not what makes street fun.

I do agree that natural is far more difficult. For me that makes it less fun, but then I just lack the skill. I admit it is satisfying when you manage something on natural, but as soon as I get back to street (flat surfaces etc) I feel like I can breathe again! I think it's because you can ride more comfortably, feel like you're in your element rather than fighting against the surroundings, it lets you get the creativity going. With 'a wall', there's an infinite number of things you can do with it, not just 'hitting it over and over again'...

I guess there are an infinite number of lines in natural I just don't find them very enticing. I like to be able to roll and use speed (almost as if I were riding a bike...)

Phew I'm done. Just ride what you enjoy...

Thats why i said generally

Generally most people have the typical long, low and silver style bikes. They mostly ride in this way. Hence the use of the word generally. If i meant everyone i would have said everyone, the fact that i didn't takes into account the extremeties like yourself, riding short little bikes with a bmx streety style.

Personally i try all sorts of things on rocks. I was trying to 180 sidehop dropgap between two rocks the other day, i can't see how thats not creative. Another one was trying to get a run up, bunnyhop onto my front wheel onto one rock and as the back end got high enough flick off the front wheel landing on two wheels on a rock slightly higher up. Basically, upping to front and using the momentum to flick off the front and go even further.

Anyway, back to the point, you took my sentence out of context by isolating it like you did. I used it as a comparison of the size of a line between natural and street. In natural theres usually loads of rocks so to complete a line or section you have to keep going and its a lot longer. In street you usually only find like a maximum of like 5 different walls close enough to be linked in someway. The majority of the time you only find a wall of some description, or a gap. Hence, in comparison to natural, street is a case of hitting a wall till you make it..... i didn't specify how you had to hit it. I left that down to your creativity

[Deonn h]

I know it doesn't matter. Its just he said its not as challenging as street, when its generally quite a bit more challenging.

I was only making a point

No i didnt lol , thats not the case atall i think there both as challanging as each other but in different ways.

[hugh_b]

anyone saying natural isnt harden than street must be blind, natural is technical and big at the same time, you dont have to worry so much about getting to that grippy point on a rock etc. yeah street it cool but it's getting to the point now where it's not really trials, all thes 24" bikes are basically big bmx bikes, real street riding on real trials bikes is fun but doesnt challenge or interest me anywhere near as much as natural. Try tapping 59ich out of mud/slippery surface onto an uneven slippery rock, now thats hard. Hey thats my opinion and it's what i enjoy most, aslong as everyone is enjoying their riding then thats cool. -Hugh

[pengsmelly]

i do love the street but sometimes like to do natural. The reason i like street is because its goog to watch and natural is boring to watch but fun to ride. matt

[ilikeriding]

If i could ride natural I would, but I enjoy trying to go that inch further on street, I guess im simple but when your riding different walls in different places arranged in different ways its close enough for me

[B.E.A.U]

street

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[Gaz M]

ill giv my sister a bike, build her 60 walls.. starting from 1" and going upto 60"... not going to happen isit

if your talking about that 59" tap danny butler did thats about as vertical as my bed then id be more than happy to do it street riders cant tap 59" in muddy runups upside down etc but neither can anyone else your forgetting natural is all un even but thats not always a bad thing it makes tapping things a lot easier you can side hop better because you grip more theres a good and a bad side to everything. street is just all the big flashy moves you use in trials to get over natural obsticales taken to the highest possible level, natural is those moves but smaller and in combinations if you like Lycra, frustration and competitiveness get on natural if you enjoy spending all your money to smash it up with all your mates having a laugh then get on street

[Adrian]

natural all the way, if your good enough and have enough stamina you can quite literally ride for as long as you like without even putting your feet down... and ofcourse its more challenging!! well, it is where i live anyway cus if you bail your gonna end up 6ft down in sum pit... and you can practice anymove on natty with out have to bike for about 20mins to get to the next location just for 'a' dropgap woooooo.... and also this poll is a bit unfair as most people in the UK havnt got any natty anywhere near them so theyre not even going to kno what its like and also for the noobies natty will be impossible for them to ride so i dought theyll like it, so basicaly poll wis.. street is 100% going to get mor votes

[Ryan.]

natural all the way, if your good enough and have enough stamina you can quite literally ride for as long as you like without even putting your feet down... and ofcourse its more challenging!! well, it is where i live anyway cus if you bail your gonna end up 6ft down in sum pit... and you can practice anymove on natty with out have to bike for about 20mins to get to the next location just for 'a' dropgap woooooo.... and also this poll is a bit unfair as most people in the UK havnt got any natty anywhere near them so theyre not even going to kno what its like and also for the noobies natty will be impossible for them to ride so i dought theyll like it, so basicaly poll wis.. street is 100% going to get mor votes

totally agree natty all the way, where we live natty is awesome so no questions asked when we get the choice of natty or street! only problem is we usually have to wait for the pebbles to be sucked out by the tide. which can take friggin weeks here!!

[Adrian]

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[Watson©]

Might be because I've got no natural spots near me and every time I get to ride rocks I feel like it's the best thing in the world.

Haha... thats the same as me... it's like finding Gold

[Ali C]

natural is those moves but smaller and in combinations if you like Lycra, frustration and competitiveness get on natural if you enjoy spending all your money to smash it up with all your mates having a laugh then get on street

after riding buthiers I am AMASED at how big the natty riders can go, theres a 56" tap Gilles did that is just one pedal, uphil over a rock and the tap is over hanging! or the tap kenny does thats shoulder hight again with a short uphill runup, or the hook that I can barley reach with my hands or the gap benito does up to a rock that I cant even do jumping on my feet and landing in a climbing position....the list is endless. They can go soooooo big on natural its unreal!

I find street frustrating, its too repetative, I get bored quick which frustrates me....the only street I like is flowy bmxy lines.

Also, I havnt seen lycra in comps for years (at least in the uk), saying only street riders have a laugh is a bit narrow minded

[Krisboats]

ill giv my sister a bike, build her 60 walls.. starting from 1" and going upto 60"... not going to happen isit

if your talking about that 59" tap danny butler did thats about as vertical as my bed then id be more than happy to do it street riders cant tap 59" in muddy runups upside down etc but neither can anyone else your forgetting natural is all un even but thats not always a bad thing it makes tapping things a lot easier you can side hop better because you grip more theres a good and a bad side to everything. street is just all the big flashy moves you use in trials to get over natural obsticales taken to the highest possible level, natural is those moves but smaller and in combinations if you like Lycra, frustration and competitiveness get on natural if you enjoy spending all your money to smash it up with all your mates having a laugh then get on street

Thats quite a strange view. So theres lycra police or soemthing on all rocks everywhere, not letting peopel ride them if their not wearing lycra. People don't really wear lycra nowadays, look at the old riding videos... they used to wear lycra on street rides . Why is natural frustatrating and not street... i've seen people getting pretty annoyed missing a sidehop on a random wall. So in your eyes, street riding is where people go to destroy their bikes in order to have a laugh. You not thought people might be able to have a laugh without destroying stuff, and if anything bikes get more smashed on natural . Why spend money to smash it anyway, if you were a good rider you'd be able to ride without smashing things. And people compete on street rides, trying to out-gap each other and stuff is most definately competetive.

Sorry, but i had to point out the fact you just wrote completely streotypical bullshit, without any kind of association with reality or fact.

[ben_travis]

i wouldnt choose one over the other,

my opinions on it change all the time, i just wide what i am enjoying, widing is the best ever innit

[Davetrials]

after riding buthiers I am AMASED at how big the natty riders can go, theres a 56" tap Gilles did that is just one pedal, uphil over a rock and the tap is over hanging! or the tap kenny does thats shoulder hight again with a short uphill runup, or the hook that I can barley reach with my hands or the gap benito does up to a rock that I cant even do jumping on my feet and landing in a climbing position....the list is endless. They can go soooooo big on natural its unreal!

I find street frustrating, its too repetative, I get bored quick which frustrates me....the only street I like is flowy bmxy lines.

Also, I havnt seen lycra in comps for years (at least in the uk), saying only street riders have a laugh is a bit narrow minded

I WAS SO CLOSE TO HITTING SOMANY PEOPLE AT THE BRITS, SO MANY f**kING (oops caps sorry) anti social bastards at comps, even boys who normally have a laff were just shit.

comp scene sucks, im happy my mates still have a laff there.

street is nothing but a laff.

[Sam Nichols]