darrenhopper Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Hi everyone, I'm having no luck finding anything with the search button so I figured I'd just ask...Has anyone got any advice on a bar / stem combo?I've been looking at getting both in Carbon for the fanciness of it all but would like a little feedback, if possible, on what's worth buying.This is the stem I'm thinking of: And for the bars I was thinking of either the Onza Flats or the V!z??All opinions welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I thought carbon stems were a big no no in trials.I love my onza carbon bars mind, they're the 30" raisers, had the 28" flats befor and they were good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenhopper Posted April 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I thought carbon stems were a big no no in trials.I don't know, the write up says it's T6 Aluminium wrapped in Carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I though 90% of carbon bars have alu inserts? just to add to the strenth.. only racer bars are pure carbon i think?also Ali C runs a carbon stem, only for light weight competition use, for the reason its weak and not good at shock loading...upta you, dont think its a good idea, Onza Carbon bars are probably your best bet!!x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenhopper Posted April 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 That's cool enough, might give the stem a miss so.Are there alot of instances of failures in CF bars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Ive been running Viz carbon bars for a couple years now.They seem strong enough.Even split the weave, and bent the alu insert in the left end of the bar the 1st week I got them.Still running.My only complaint is that they are too thin (end to end) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 that they are too thin (end to end)Narrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 That's cool enough, might give the stem a miss so.Are there alot of instances of failures in CF bars?I dont quite get what you mean, but if im thinking right haha you mean people breaking them?The carbon rapping can break, fray or even crank. Carbon is not a shock loading material hence why its not massivly used in trials because of the constant landing pulling and force on the bars. ide drops, sidehop front to backs, pulling landing on the bars due to weight shifting.understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I ran some for 2 years, X-lite bars....no problems.They are now five years old and on my xc bike, only cause the rise was too low for my 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika.M Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 (edited) I have used carbon bar about 5 years now without any problems. I Bought it from Sweden (via Matrin Kleivard), it's very strong and it's really FULL carbon. Weight is 170g, wide 740mm.Carbon gives you a much softer feeling at the bike and it's shock absorbing for hands and arms...Pic -> http://www.fintrial.com/images/something/carbonbar.jpg Edited April 25, 2007 by Mika.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I have used carbon bar about 5 years now without any problems. I Bought it from Sweden (via Matrin Kleivard), it's very strong and it's really FULL carbon. Weight is 170g, wide 740mm.Carbon gives you a much softer feeling at the bike and it's shock absorbing for hands and arms...Pic -> http://www.fintrial.com/images/something/carbonbar.jpgIs that a Carbocomp bar? I heard they all snapped with ease?Anyways, I've been running the Pazzaz risers for 3 years now with no problems at all, can't fault them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika.M Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Yes, I think it is. My bar is second edition (more layers), first ones snapped easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 haha i have a carbocomp bar, in 2 pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika.M Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 haha i have a carbocomp bar, in 2 pieces First edition i guess?They are about 1,5mm thick at end of the bar, 2nd bars are at least 2,5mm thick at same place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Ive been running Viz carbon bars for a couple years now.They seem strong enough.Even split the weave, and bent the alu insert in the left end of the bar the 1st week I got them.Still running.My only complaint is that they are too thin (end to end)arent viz "carbon" bars just ally ones with a carbon effect weave over the top ? ..... I ran easton monkeylites for a couple of years no troubles . . . they dont have inserts either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 yea your basicaly right, theyre alu bars with a whole one layer of carbon over to... haha its just for looks as carbon in that shape would be sooooooo weak... if you were ta make a pure carbon bar as strong as lets say zoo! bars then the bar would have to be like 2" thick..lol and it would be heavier. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 if you were ta make a pure carbon bar as strong as lets say zoo! bars then the bar would have to be like 2" thick..lol and it would be heavier. lolWell no, look at Easton bars. The MonkeyLight DH ones are all carbon (other than inserts) and they're neither 2" thick nor weaker than Zoo bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 First edition i guess?They are about 1,5mm thick at end of the bar, 2nd bars are at least 2,5mm thick at same place...yep, it snapped after like 2 week though, it has the spectra logos and it was on my bianchi ilions when i bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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