Deonn h Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) Hi guys my anti virus ran out like a week ago and we bought nortan 360 about 2 days later leaving the computer unprotected for about 2 days , in that 2 days it must have picked up something as its running slow , crashes , dosent always close down just restarts instead .Is there anyway of getting rid of it ive tried scanning for it in N..360 but dosent find anything.Its really f**ked up now the laptop its only like a couple of months old there anyway of getting rid of it? any internet download things which are better thn this 360 which will find it.thanks deonnEDIT: its just getting annoying now wont shut down atall , does system restore just bring everything on your computer back to that date so everything youvedownloaded etc is gone.Or do things stay? I think im gonna have to do it.. Edited April 28, 2007 by Deonn h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 You could try AVG, but i wouldn't think it'll pick up anything Nortan didn't.Also try Spybot S&D to check the spyware.They may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Sounds like a trogen (how ever you spell it) - my boy!Those programs above should sort it out easily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi guys my anti virus ran out like a week ago and we bought nortan 360 about 2 days later leaving the computer unprotected for about 2 days , in that 2 days it must have picked up something as its running slow , crashes , dosent always close down just restarts instead .Is there anyway of getting rid of it ive tried scanning for it in N..360 but dosent find anything.Its really f**ked up now the laptop its only like a couple of months old there anyway of getting rid of it? any internet download things which are better thn this 360 which will find it.thanks deonnSounds like a trogen (how ever you spell it) - my boy!Those programs above should sort it out easily!sounds nothin like a trojan, do you even know what a trojan is??this may sound stupid but if anything got in in them 2 days norton should of picked it up anyway. are you sure th slow system/crashes isnt norton itself, as its rather resource intensive to say the least as far as have software goes. try removing norton and se what happens. also chances of anything gettin in are quite unlikely unless youve been downloading a lot of stuff drom dubious sources over them 2 days. just because a computer doesnt have have doesnt mean it will get a virus, just means if you get one, it should pick it up and get rid of it before it becomes too mcuh of a nuisance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 this may sound stupid but if anything got in in them 2 days norton should of picked it up anyway. are you sure th slow system/crashes isnt norton itself, as its rather resource intensive to say the least as far as have software goes. try removing norton and se what happens.thats what i thought when i read the thread but i couldn't be bothered replying/starting an argument about norton.*IMO* norton is the worst anti virus software ever, when it's scanning your pc will be slow as hell. it really seems to eat up resources.you should ditch it entirely and get something like AVG (it's free too if you want).i have used it for a good two years along side windows firewall (annoying but meh) and my pc never gets any sort of virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Well i ran spybot and it found 25 things which have been sorted now , il see how it goes tonight.If not il uninstall norton cheers so far.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 to be fair the server based enterprise edition of norton is alright. the others are complete dogshit though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Trojans randomly restart your PCand make is slow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Trojans randomly restart your PCand make is slow...well its not randomly restarting , when i shut down it just restarts then and way whatever it is its annoying, il try shut down now that ive done that spybot thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) that's not really what they dotrojans allow arseholes (or arsehole software) from the internet to access your machine. A well written trojan will not affect the running of your machine in the slightest because that would alert you to its presence - thereby undermining its purpose. Edited April 16, 2007 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Trojans are meant to be as undetectable as possible. Some can cover as different file types and stuff, so when you run them, they can either open back doors, or perform tasks like wiping hard discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 that's not really what they dotrojans allow arseholes (or arsehole software) from the internet to access your machine. A well written trojan will not affect the running of your machine in the slightest because that would alert you to its presence - thereby undermining its purpose.OhhhThe only Trojan I've had made my PC ultra slow, and started eating away at my information! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 OhhhThe only Trojan I've had made my PC ultra slow, and started eating away at my information! That'd be a Virus then, trojans open ports so somebody can remotely access your computer. Whereas the Virus will be destructive, and will try to replicate itself in different places to stop it being deleted.Again I don't want to start an argument, but why does everybody rave about Spybot and Ad-aware? I've never seen them come out on top on any reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 That'd be a Virus then, trojans open ports so somebody can remotely access your computer. Whereas the Virus will be destructive, and will try to replicate itself in different places to stop it being deleted.Again I don't want to start an argument, but why does everybody rave about Spybot and Ad-aware? I've never seen them come out on top on any reviews.Mainly I think, because they're free.They seem to do the job too.And thanks for correcting me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 they are more of a placebo effect than actually improving your pc.sure, if your pc is a complete wreck they can aid it slightly, but if you have a good knowledge of computers and take care of your pc then ad-aware and spy-bot are largely irrelevant. you just run them, 'delete' a few files that on the whole have no effect on the running of the pc, then in you head you are thinking "wow, that page loaded loads faster!!11" even when it didn't at all.basically, if it's free, it is usually useless (avg being the big and possibly only exception). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Mainly I think, because they're free.They seem to do the job too.Everything is free on the internet. You just have to know where to look. Anyway personally I'd go with Webroots Spysweeper usually the winner in reviews. Agreed its good that spybot an ad-aware are free but they don't find everything and when they do, they dont always remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Everything is free on the internet. You just have to know where to look. Naughty Naughty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Highly recommend nod32 - basically all 'hackers' (I'll call them hackers to generalise people that use illegal programs, programs that have been illegally gotten and other such people that know a lot about computers) use it and recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Try using system restore. Or just format the whole thing. Also try this if no luck. Go download HJT and read the stickies then go post your log. They are very helpfull there and know there stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Try using disabling system restore. Or just format the whole thing.Virus's etc have a habit of protecting themselves within system restore. If you turn it off, system restore deletes all of it's backup files as well as any virus within the sys restore folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Virus's etc have a habit of protecting themselves within system restore. If you turn it off, system restore deletes all of it's backup files as well as any virus within the sys restore folder.erm... a system restore probably won't do much good if there is a virus cos it'll have infected a load of files outside of the system restore's remit but there's no reason to turn it off. System restore is there to recover from installing crap drivers and shonky software - not to get rid of virii. Thats what virus detectors are for. In this sort of case the Hijackthis approach (as eskimo said) is probably your best bet although personally I'd probably go for a rebuild cos it'd be quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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