Grant H Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 i know they both are.i never said the spec 2 wasnt good.i just said it seems better value but could get the spec 1 and use the money for something more worth while for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 if i WERE to consider building my own bike...what parts would i need to consider (so basically i want to know every component i need to be buy, therefore i can try and build one and find out what parts are good etc and then comapare it to a Onza T-Rex Spec1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 if i WERE to consider building my own bike...what parts would i need to consider (so basically i want to know every component i need to be buy, therefore i can try and build one and find out what parts are good etc and then comapare it to a Onza T-Rex Spec1it would be more expensive, but will probably be better quality.do you have any experience in building bikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 (Echo, Zoo, Adamant, GU, Onza) - FrameSame for forks.Any headset will do.Echo or something similar for the stemZoo HandlebarsEcho 2007 rimsMagura brakes frotn and rearPlazmatic crm's rear padszoo pads frontMaxxis minion tyreshope pro 2 2007 rear hubAny front hubTensile cranksEcho external bbonza shin dig pedalsSomething along the lines of that would be a great bike.Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 (Echo, Zoo, Adamant, GU, Onza) - FrameSame for forks.Any headset will do.Echo or something similar for the stemZoo HandlebarsEcho 2007 rimsMagura brakes frotn and rearPlazmatic crm's rear padszoo pads frontMaxxis minion tyreshope pro 2 2007 rear hubAny front hubTensile cranksEcho external bbonza shin dig pedalsSomething along the lines of that would be a great bike.Dannyalso alot more than his budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 no i dont, merely a consideration though, so how much do you reckon danny's reccomendation's would cost from say www.tartybikes.co.uk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 probably near 1000 quid if you could afford it, it would be a beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Maximum is about £1200Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 think i will go for the Onza T-Rex, i will keep the hubs i have for now but it sounds that a new pair if pads would be good so what is a good set to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Plazmatic Crm's on the rear with a nice sharp grind.Zoo pads on the front with a smooth rim.Danny.See Tartybikes for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 if you get it off tarty it will come with a set of green rock pads, just get some zoo! and put the zoo's on the back and the rock pads on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 the zoo hs33 and what is a smooth rim i reply to danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) a smooth rim is how a rim comes when its new.it hasn't had a grind or anything. Edited April 11, 2007 by Grant H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 ah ok, well thank you very much for your help, truly appreciated, if i have any further q's i will know where to come and i'll keep you posted on the bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) To be honest you are better off customizing a bike mate if you have £700.The complete bikes or 'starter' bikes do not have good componants on them and break easily and fast.Ideally a new rider should have strong parts, as they will not be as smooth controlled and accurate as some of/ all experianced riders.I think that it would be best for you to get a stock bike (mountain bike) and start out on that.The parts are a lot more common and easier to get than the mod bikes (bmx sized wheels).Also, to get the best prices, visit some specific bike trials shops and see what you fancy.Here is a guide to a good enough spec for your budget and for your level of riding...parts can be bought from TartybikesFrame: Echo pure 2007 - £219.00 Forks: onza tuff guys - £40Headset:FSA pig - £17.00stem: fsa os - £23.00Bars:onza t raptor - £25.00Front wheel: revell rim on dmr revolver hub and sapim spokes - £70.00Back wheel: Hope mono with sapim spokes on dx32 rim rim - £120.00 Tyres: maxxis minion front and rear £40.00Bottom bracket: Truvativ gigapipe - £35.00Cranks:Echo forged - £52.00Pedals: vp - £12.00Backguard: adamant - £20.00Front sprocket: echo screw on £17.00Brakes: magura hs33s - £125.00Brake pads: Plazmatic cmrm's x 2 - £34.00chain: KMC kool - £12.00derailier: suntour - £10.00All for just under 800 pounds (if you can stretch your budget a bit) This spec will last a lot longer than 'starter' bike spec...YOU BETTER GET THIS! THIS TOOK ME AGES.DAMN YOU NEW MEMBERS LOL...Good luck.. Edited April 11, 2007 by max-t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 ^^^ Absolute legend, respect goes for having the patience to put all that together. Especially for NMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 To be honest you are better off customizing a bike mate if you have £700.The complete bikes or 'starter' bikes do not have good componants on them and break easily and fast.Ideally a new rider should have strong parts, as they will not be as smooth controlled and accurate as some of/ all experianced riders.I think that it would be best for you to get a stock bike (mountain bike) and start out on that.The parts are a lot more common and easier to get than the mod bikes (bmx sized wheels).Also, to get the best prices, visit some specific bike trials shops and see what you fancy.Here is a guide to a good enough spec for your budget and for your level of riding...parts can be bought from TartybikesFrame: Echo pure 2007 - £219.00 Forks: onza tuff guys - £40Headset:FSA pig - £17.00stem: fsa os - £23.00Bars:onza t raptor - £25.00Front wheel: revell rim on dmr revolver hub and sapim spokes - £70.00Back wheel: Hope mono with sapim spokes on dx32 rim rim - £120.00 Tyres: maxxis minion front and rear £40.00Bottom bracket: Truvativ gigapipe - £35.00Cranks:Echo forged - £52.00Pedals: vp - £12.00Backguard: adamant - £20.00Front sprocket: echo screw on £17.00Brakes: magura hs33s - £125.00Brake pads: Plazmatic cmrm's x 2 - £34.00chain: KMC kool - £12.00derailier: suntour - £10.00All for just under 800 pounds (if you can stretch your budget a bit) This spec will last a lot longer than 'starter' bike spec...YOU BETTER GET THIS! THIS TOOK ME AGES.DAMN YOU NEW MEMBERS LOL...Good luck..thank you very much for putting that effort in, i do appreciate it, i dunno about stretching the budget, i could do it, although means it'll take longer to get (spose it's better to wait and abit longer and get a better bike than rush into it).one problem, big problem, i have no idea how to put a bike together.. at all ... not at all! so that is probably going to hold me back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 thank you very much for putting that effort in, i do appreciate it, i dunno about stretching the budget, i could do it, although means it'll take longer to get (spose it's better to wait and abit longer and get a better bike than rush into it).one problem, big problem, i have no idea how to put a bike together.. at all ... not at all! so that is probably going to hold me backwell alot of the stuff is pretty simple to put together.some of it will need to be put together with a special tool such as bottom bracket, or headset.if you get it off tarty bikes then you can pay for it to be done by them, so it will be built well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 brilliant! and i really like the frame anyway so now i basically have the parts, on looks, is it good to have all one colour (all black) or better to mix it up, cos for the headset i could choose different colours and for the forks too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 could have a simple colour scheme (such as same colour rims, headset, bars)look on adaments website and i'm sure you'll find some pics of bikes with different colour schemes so you'll know what it will look like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) wow the adamanet a1 frame is lovely, and it looks like i can just buy the frame, would it be ok getting that frame or would that lead to a consquence of having to change other parts?becuase atm i am liking the adament a1 07' with the echo control 07' fork, with some black hope pro 2 hub'soo exiciting, building a bike, even if it is on the web Edited April 12, 2007 by jayz_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) then you get it and wont want to ride it and scratch it Edited April 12, 2007 by Grant H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 I've build one on tartybikes.co.uk, just over £900, coming nearer to £1000 actually, as by the time i will be able to afford it - June'ish, it'll almost be my birthday, so hopefully i will be able to get some more money by then this is how it goes:Frame: Adament A1 07' (Short (would love an explanation on what short or long means in terms of a frame)) - Cost: £299Forks: Onza TuffGuy - Cost: £39Headset: FSA Pig - Cost: £17Stem: FSA OS - Cost: £23Handlebars: GU Flat Bar - Cost: £30Front Wheel: Revell Front rim with DMR Revolver hub - Cost: £50Rear Wheel: Alex DX-32 rim with Hope XC rear hub - Cost: £100Spokes: 2x Saphim Race 26" - Cost: £30Tyres: Maxxis Minion (Front & Rear) - Cost: £40Bottom Bracket: Truvativ Gigapipe - Cost :35Cranks: Echo Forged - Cost: £52Pedals: DMR V8 (i thought the Onza VP looked kinda brutal as as i am a newbie i will be smashing the pedals against my shins alot ) - Cost: £21Backguard: Adamant - Cost: £20Front Sprocket: Echo Screw-On - Cost £17Brakes: Magura HS33's - Cost: £125Brake Pads: 2x Plazmatic CRM's - Cost: £34Chain: KMC Kool - Cost: £12Derailleurs: Onza Trial's Mech - Cost: £18Shipping: £5Getting tartybikes.co.uk to build the bike: around £20 to £30 i hope!Total: £1005 maxTell me what you think, if there are any bits which arn't compatible and i'll take another look.thanks in advance-jamiebtw- on some products ie. the sprockets, next to it, it has a little drop down menu with 13T on, other products have this sort of option, could you just tell me what that means?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant H Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 btw- on some products ie. the sprockets, next to it, it has a little drop down menu with 13T on, other products have this sort of option, could you just tell me what that means?)the ammount of teeth it has, a good gear ratio is 18T front sprocket and the rear should be 15T or 16T probably the most popular ratios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayz_ Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 but what do you think of the bike1. will all parts be compatible2. will all that black make it looks ghey?3. what are your opinion's on the adament a1lol just realised that the price is steadily rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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