Phil H Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Fitted some of Ali C's Joy pads last night. Went out for a little 5 minute sesh on the curbs. The power was good and it wasn't slipping at all but it had no bite atall. Whereas where I had red onza pads I had immense bite and as I pulled in the lever it just stopped dead and I could really feel the brake biting now its just mushy and nasty.I've got a medium/light grinded rim which isn't particularly sharp but with the onza pads were working beasty. Like I said it isn't slipping one bit just doesn't feel nice to hold.I'm going to try setting the brake up a couple more times. I mgiht try white spirit then methelated spirit etc to clean the rim.What else? Do they need bedding in time?Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Yeah, they normaly need some time to bed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ride with them for more than 5 mintues?but seriously some brake pads can take like up to a few hours to bed in give em a chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil H Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) ride with them for more than 5 mintues?but seriously some brake pads can take like up to a few hours to bed in give em a chance!Allritey rode another 15 mins this afternoon.Going out in 10. Properly annoying I have all this coursework Phil Edited March 25, 2007 by Phil_Onza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 So why did you change pads in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Don't keep setting up the brakes, do it once then leave it. Otherwise it f**ks up the edges of the pad and makes them wear unevenly, and takes even longer to bed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomer Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 So why did you change pads in the first place?maybe he wore the others down? i fitted my joy pads last weekend and it took a good day at least, until they felt nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil H Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 So why did you change pads in the first place?They were worn down quite alot and besides they were complete cack before I ordered the new pads. It was just since I got a new bleed that they got nice and the positioning was spot on.I just rode for half an hour. Was hitting the highest peddle hop/occasional tap I have ever done, kept landing on the edge and very slighlty slipping. So I put the pads closer but what im finding is that only one piston is moving that well as well as them having not much bite and this is the reason I keep having to re-set the pads.Rather Annoying. I'll give them a couple of days and see what happens.Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Dont suppose your running a stupidly stiff booster on an ordinarily rigid frame are you? My joypads were heaps better after i'd removed my control booster. They had noise, bite and lock. I was well chuffed.Cheap fix too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 As Kris said, removing my booster made my Joypads bite like crazy. As for bedding in, I seem to remember it taking atleast 2 days, which was abnormally long but I think these pads are quite a hard compound therefore its understandable that after just 15mins they are still abit poo.Just keep chucking water on and riding round doing quick bursts of braking, let the water dry naturally and thats how I get my pads to bed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 So I put the pads closer but what im finding is that only one piston is moving that wellWind the TPA off, set 'em up again? Sounds like either you've got a sticking piston and just need to lube them up, or you just need to use less TPA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Don't keep setting up the brakes, do it once then leave it. Otherwise it f**ks up the edges of the pad and makes them wear unevenly, and takes even longer to bed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Wind the TPA off, set 'em up again? Sounds like either you've got a sticking piston and just need to lube them up, or you just need to use less TPA...I swear, half the time people should set up their brakes properly before getting pissed off with pads. Look at what guys like the Martins did on good old Koolstops!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 it took my phat pads a good few days to bed in as it was raining all the time but i got simp to put a grind on only light medium and it was insane did my biggest backwheel in the rain (bar height) and it was squeeking and locking i was well chuffed best pads ive used ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil H Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dont suppose your running a stupidly stiff booster on an ordinarily rigid frame are you? My joypads were heaps better after i'd removed my control booster. They had noise, bite and lock. I was well chuffed.Cheap fix too I have a T-Rex and a fat echo control booster. Worth a try!Cheers,PhilI swear, half the time people should set up their brakes properly before getting pissed off with pads. Look at what guys like the Martins did on good old Koolstops!!I have tried setting it up a fair few times. PhilAs Kris said, removing my booster made my Joypads bite like crazy. As for bedding in, I seem to remember it taking atleast 2 days, which was abnormally long but I think these pads are quite a hard compound therefore its understandable that after just 15mins they are still abit poo.Just keep chucking water on and riding round doing quick bursts of braking, let the water dry naturally and thats how I get my pads to bed in.Ah I see, good stuff. Haven't tried the water approach (thought that was jsut for disks) Well I rode yesterday and I put a good 3/4 hours tonight. They are still fairly grippy but on the very edge of logs move a tiny bit. Nothing too bad jsut not feeling the bite. I do feel a sligh improvement since yesterday.Philit took my phat pads a good few days to bed in as it was raining all the time but i got simp to put a grind on only light medium and it was insane did my biggest backwheel in the rain (bar height) and it was squeeking and locking i was well chuffed best pads ive used everAh fair doos. I suppose its only been about 6/7 hours of riding with the new pads. I'll start adding water and see what happens in time.Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor the basher. Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 These pads are awsom but i sed mine up like near to perfect and they just beded in all wonky must have got a soft set . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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