AdamR28 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Hello everyone,The Echo CNC Rim brake is now available in the UK.ThanksAdam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I viewed this product on tarty web last week, but it wasnt availiable to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 he is 1/2 of tarty, and if you look now you will see it isI wont be buying one for £150, too much mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*BOOTHY* Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 i agree it is too much but nice though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 It's actually £135 a little less than expected , if you add up everything your getting you can sort of understand it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey B Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 The site says as used by Ali C!!!!!I thought you swore by vee's ?!? whats going on.Another thing I've got myself one for the rear are there still OK to bleed with water and antifreeze???Cheers Joey B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 It's actually £135 a little less than expected , if you add up everything your getting you can sort of understand it though How you work out they are worth it. Its just a cnc version really. Yeah may be they will be stronger but, maggies arnt that bad and if you did break your maggie you can just buy another and it come to same as one dengura. People who buy these are only really buying them to say they have ones because a maggie correctly set up with good set of pads can be amazing and is half the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 people pay that much for hope disks, this like a hope magura, lovley cnc machined and great performance.I LOVE vees, but theres no harm in trying somthing different, I would NEVER use a maggie though, an xc brake slightly modded to suit our needs isnt anywhere near as good as a brake specially designed for trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) How you work out they are worth it. Its just a cnc version really.yes it is.but i can think of many reasons why thats a HUGE amount better !!-no more snapping lever blades-no more stripping threads from bleed holes and hose fitting holes-i think due to better metal and better tolerances(accuracy) it will have a stronger and smoother TPA-i think the better tolerances would make the pistons move better,equally and not leak as easy.-and less pad wobble!-it comes with less flexy/bendy cnc mounts-the pin that hods the pad on it probably stronger to deal with ALU trials pads.so ye it is a CNC version !!but since i got my first maggy iv been praying that some1 would make 1 out of proper metal !i rekon its ace !thats my 2p (maybe 4p, i went on a bit)iolo,EDIT..just noticed the lever hose exit is out of the way alot moreAND the lever bleed screw is away from the hose exit.so it doesnt get in the way when trying to attach syringe ect,. Edited March 24, 2007 by IOLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Can anyone confirm that moving the lever the same amount as you would with a magura, will make these slaves move further. (Meaning the pad will make contact with the rim with less lever pulled in comparison) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 No - the piston sizes on this brake are identical to an HS33.In fact, because of the slightly longer lever blades, for the same amount of travel at the very end of the blade this system will move the pads slightly less distance (7%).Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexymike Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 AFTER USN ONE xi can safley say there are very wroth itill try and explain tmoz qwen im a bit moe soberbut they do rinse maggiesthe tpa for example rocks maggies tits offthe placent of the hose is mint no more snapping howeseslovbe daverteiaLASDRUNK SORRY WEL IM NOT LOL BUT WEERMcat in ahate lameo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 AFTER USN ONE xi can safley say there are very wroth itill try and explain tmoz qwen im a bit moe soberbut they do rinse maggiesthe tpa for example rocks maggies tits offthe placent of the hose is mint no more snapping howeseslovbe daverteiaLASDRUNK SORRY WEL IM NOT LOL BUT WEERMcat in ahate lameoIts only 9:30 and your already pissed? Haven't really seen much of these brakes... but beau has it plastered all over his msn that they are shite and his lever keeps falling out - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Has he tightened the grub screw up? Loctited it in? That would solve the 'problem' instantly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Has he tightened the grub screw up? Loctited it in? That would solve the 'problem' instantly...I'm afraid I don't know... Maybe he hasn't tightened it so I cant really say, but I wouldn't want to have to locktite a £135 brake thats 2 days old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Its standard practice though - Middleburn cranks come loctited, a lot of bolts come with loctite pre-installed (rotor bolts, hub axle bolts). Loctite isn't a bodge, its essential to the proper function of a lot of engineering products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Its standard practice though - Middleburn cranks come loctited, a lot of bolts come with loctite pre-installed (rotor bolts, hub axle bolts). Loctite isn't a bodge, its essential to the proper function of a lot of engineering products Fair play mate I was thinking of the super industrial locktite... not threadlock, sorry completely missunderstood what you meant, my fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Ah cool, sorry, I should have said threadlock, my fault for using a brand name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Loctiting some threads is just as important as greasing others IMO.The brake looks good, it does seem pricey but if you think of all the 'pimp' extras like the blades and mounts it's probably worth it, it'll just take a while for people to start using it and the word getting out about how well (or not, depending on people opinions) it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Its standard practice though - Middleburn cranks come loctited, a lot of bolts come with loctite pre-installed (rotor bolts, hub axle bolts). Loctite isn't a bodge, its essential to the proper function of a lot of engineering products So if these are prone to coming loose shoudn't they have it applied before they send them off. It's silly thing's like that that get to me about deng..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I agree, a very minor point though I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 If everything came out of the factory perfect, we'd all have a pretty boring life. Applying your brain to the problems of hanging a bike together is just as much a part of trials as working out how to attack a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 My bolts on my disc havnt got locktite, but my disc cost £105 less than the dengura, I guess I wouldn't care if I actually just spent the money and bought some locktite..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Beau's denguras looked very well made today. The machining on the lever body is actually quite nice, and it seems very well laid out with regards to cable placement/bleedscrew access/etc. With regards to power, i'm not sure theres a lot of difference, but if i had the money i'd probably get one just so i could know its actually a decent lever body and slave cylinder build as opposed to magura's non cnc'd stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) Ali you no that i hate hope lol And think people are silly buying them at that price and swear by bb7's yes it is.but i can think of many reasons why thats a HUGE amount better !!-no more snapping lever blades-no more stripping threads from bleed holes and hose fitting holes-i think due to better metal and better tolerances(accuracy) it will have a stronger and smoother TPA-i think the better tolerances would make the pistons move better,equally and not leak as easy.-and less pad wobble!-it comes with less flexy/bendy cnc mounts-the pin that hods the pad on it probably stronger to deal with ALU trials pads.so ye it is a CNC version !!but since i got my first maggy iv been praying that some1 would make 1 out of proper metal !i rekon its ace !thats my 2p (maybe 4p, i went on a bit)iolo,EDIT..just noticed the lever hose exit is out of the way alot moreAND the lever bleed screw is away from the hose exit.so it doesnt get in the way when trying to attach syringe ect,.I can see what you mean by stateing all these problems but ive never had half of these problems ive only ever snapped one maggy since i started riding and split one hose thats the only problem ive had with my maguras. And im sure you can understand why i dont think they are worth it as i hardly have problems. But they do seems to be of a good quality blah blah but im not willing to pay that much when i can get a good set up with my maggy and good pads. Thats just my opinion though. Edited March 24, 2007 by andy h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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