Davey Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Current petition going round on McSpaz, thought I'd get you all in on it too, this is a subject dear to me as live music is my life!"The Government have recently passed laws in the UK to try and suppress live music.Pubs which could previously offer work to solo musicians or duos now have to pay for a special licence and can only have 12 of these per yearEven school Xmas concerts need to be licensed.The unlicensed provision of even one musician is a potential criminal offence (although some places are exempt, including places of public religious worship, royal palaces and moving vehicles). Max penalty: ?20,000 fine and six months in prison (for the proprietor and the musicians).The rationale is to prevent noise, crime and disorder, to ensure public safety, and the protection of children from harm. But broadcast entertainment, including sport and music, is exempt - no matter where, and no matter how powerfully amplified. For the first time, private performances raising money for charity will need a licence.School performances open to friends and family will need a licence - they count as public performances.If you want to add your name to the petition (currently more than 27,000 people have joined the list), please click on the following link (it takes less than a minute)...http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/licensing/If this law is implemented, it will be disastrous for music and musicians in the UK, and will threaten to return Britain to "the land without music" that it was internatio- considered to be after Cromwell's infamous ban on music.If you choose to sign the petition, please tell your friends so we can stop this despicablydestructive act from coming into being."Thanks guysDavey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Signed. This is pretty shocking, I'm amazed that something like this has even been created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted March 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 It's unbelievable the things they will come up with to squeeze more money out of us. 4x4 road tax goes up to around £400 a year pretty soon, new mileage taxation scheme, congestion charge (there's still congestion, so that failed to do anything other than generate revenue) cycling tax etc etc. It's testement to the awful state this country is in financially!All this would be fine if the money wasn't being wasted, but where does this money go? Road tax, well our roads are still a mess so where's that all gone? Congestions charge, the roads are still congested so that didn't solve anything, and what did the money go towards? And this new music licencing to supposedly stop crime and disorder, presumably that will go on policing? Well I wont even get started on how useless this countries police force is, but to give an example: Some drunken wanker knocked at my door claiming he was looking for a whore house and he thought my house was it, when I told him to f*ck off he got aggressive and pushed his was into MY house calling me all the names under the sun .... nothing was done about this as he ran off before the police arrived. however my mate parked in the lay by opposite my house and because he was in the road slightly he got £60 fine and 3 points on his license, he may now not be able to complete "the knowledge" and become a London cabby which he has been trying to do for the past few years as a result of this.Few things make me really really angry, but the way this country is run is one of them!Rant over, from me anyway, feel free to continue the rant yourselves!!Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 It's unbelievable the things they will come up with to squeeze more money out of us. 4x4 road tax goes up to around £400 a year pretty soonbullocks! I'll be driving a Merk 4X4 When I start =o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 this is the most rediculous thing the government has come up with yet! seriously cant see this going through and becoming law though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Is there a source for the government plans? The photography petition turned out to be bollocks, and I'm wondering if this is the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Anyone seen the stage show 'We Will Rock You'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Has anyone signed that petition about Paedophiles? Apparently because it costs lots of money to go after paedophiles (they hide themselves well) then the government are bringing in a new law to allow child porn on the internet, as long as the faces of the children are covered (protecting their ID). I think this is crazy, so I signed the petition against it. The government, eh?4x4 road tax goes up to around £400 a year pretty soonGood, I've had enough of rich tossers driving their kids to school in BMW X5s. I'm all for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Has anyone signed that petition about Paedophiles? Apparently because it costs lots of money to go after paedophiles (they hide themselves well) then the government are bringing in a new law to allow child porn on the internet, as long as the faces of the children are covered (protecting their ID). I think this is crazy, so I signed the petition against it. The government, eh?seriously.....i'm beginning to think this whole site is a hoax,ban live music??photograph naked kids???it's all bullshit that will NEVER happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Has anyone signed that petition about Paedophiles? Apparently because it costs lots of money to go after paedophiles (they hide themselves well) then the government are bringing in a new law to allow child porn on the internet, as long as the faces of the children are covered (protecting their ID). I think this is crazy, so I signed the petition against it. The government, eh?Good, I've had enough of rich tossers driving their kids to school in BMW X5s. I'm all for this.i hope my dad doesnt have to pay this, he needs his 4x4 for work, can you claim it back if you're using it for work and really need it? he uses it in 2 wheel drive most of the time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 i hope my dad doesnt have to pay this, he needs his 4x4 for work, can you claim it back if you're using it for work and really need it? he uses it in 2 wheel drive most of the time anyway.I think theyre going with the general vibe of "If you can afford a 4x4 you can afford to pay the extra tax". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 its not just '4x4's', it's car that naturally have a high mpg.i dunno how they'll work it out but it's basically telling people if you don't NEED it, don't drive it.personally i think it's all some cunning plan to have a police state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Dale Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I have signed...but a question..If it is the live music there trying to halt...then is that going to include local night clubs and so on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 has anyone signed the petition about the government's plans to arm the police, and give them impunity in case someone gets wrongly killed. This is being pushed through under anti-terror laws. Also there's another petition to stop european officials banning the name trifle, after complaints from French bureocrats that people mixed it up with the Effiel Tower, and therefore it should be considered a regional dish. Supermarkets and restaurants will have to rebrand their desserts as Sherry-flavoured custard sponge pudding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 has anyone signed the petition about the government's plans to arm the police, and give them impunity in case someone gets wrongly killed. This is being pushed through under anti-terror laws. Also there's another petition to stop european officials banning the name trifle, after complaints from French bureocrats that people mixed it up with the Effiel Tower, and therefore it should be considered a regional dish. Supermarkets and restaurants will have to rebrand their desserts as Sherry-flavoured custard sponge pudding.in conclusion:the human race is 98% retarded.i'm being serious, i'm such a misanthrope it actually hurts my head. why can't everyone just grow up and leave each other alone. everyone is so f**king greedy nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 This has made really mad, how the f**k do they justify shit like this? rawr wait till they start taxing walking and you have to wear a stepometer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Sorry, but i don't much believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) Sorry, but i don't much believe it.I thought that... But looks legit and website is, so i signed.WillySorry, but i don't much believe it.I thought that... But looks legit and website is, so i signed.Willy Edited March 20, 2007 by Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 has anyone signed the petition about the government's plans to arm the police, and give them impunity in case someone gets wrongly killed. This is being pushed through under anti-terror laws. Also there's another petition to stop european officials banning the name trifle, after complaints from French bureocrats that people mixed it up with the Effiel Tower, and therefore it should be considered a regional dish. Supermarkets and restaurants will have to rebrand their desserts as Sherry-flavoured custard sponge pudding.Crab sticks actually don't contain any crab, and from 1993, manfacturers have been legally obliged to call them 'crab-flavoured sticks'. Another Fact of the Day the same time tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I'm amazed that something like this has even been created.It hasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Just quickly for all those who seem to have misunderstood this. They are not trying to ban live music, don't know where that came from, rather they intend to license it more strictly, making it more expensive for venues who do not currently need a license, such as a lot of live music pubs etc. I'm guessing all they need at the moment is permition from local homeowners or whatever, but now they will need a licence!Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 But they are only allowed 12 events a year, that means, using excrutiatingly difficult maths, they can have 1 a month, as apposed the the 30 odd they would normally have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 But they are only allowed 12 events a year, that means, using excrutiatingly difficult maths, they can have 1 a month, as apposed the the 30 odd they would normally have?Haha, oh yeah that is true, christ that was taxing wasn't it:PDavey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Next they will bring in a law, "the speed limit of running, is 4mph, so you dont trip and fall" Tis f**king stupid that the government do this, no wonder our country is a pile of bollocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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