stupidstupid... Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 I'm just getting back into trials after not touching it for a few years.Now i'm staying in Manchester i'm wondering whether anyone knows any basic secluded spots between southish Manchester (Fallowfield etc) up to the city centre. Looking for somewhere i can practice a bit to get back into it; some fairly small obstacles in a flat concrete area would be ideal.Also, anyone know if there's somewhere to ride near Pamona docks and around that industrialised area near trafford?I also need to get some new stuff to rebuild a trials(ish) bike after riding XC for the past few years.Pedals: am assuming DMR V8's are still good cheap platforms?Bashguard: cant decide between running my bike fairly distance friendly and going for a 36t DMR ring thing and keeping the front mech and 22/36t, or whipping off the 36t and mech and running a Blackspire granny god etc.Wheels and brakes: Got a pair of F519s laced with DT single butted onto Hope Bulbs and a pair of minis. Also have unlaced D521s and access to some HS33s. Not sure which combination to run. I'd LIKE to run the F519s and minis, but will they be up to it?Only planning to tackle small obstacles and flat stuff for now, so i'm not sure whether the 22t blackspire is overkill, especially considering i want to be able to ride the bike into uni in the next few months as well.Many thanks, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tomm Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 You at Manchester uni then?From what I've found, there's not a great amount of decent riding spots between Fallowfield and Manchester centre. Just a few bits dotted about. There's a skate park in Fallowfield (in Platt's Fields) which occasionally isn't infested with scallies. As for the bike, if you're slightly serious about trials, you should get a 22t ring. If you then have a full cassette at the back, you'll be fine for commuting I reckon. What bike have you got? As for the wheels, you'll probably break the 519s riding trials (especially on the back) but then I guess you could always run them until they break - to save you from having to rebuild the wheel now. Ideally I'd have the 521 (or something wider, ideally) on the back and a 519 on the front.The HS33s (with decent pads of course) will be MUCH better for trials on the back brake. On the front you can choose, probably the mini is better (as long as it locks up relatively well). It just depends on whether you're building a trials bike, or something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidstupid... Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yeah am at manchester uni, where abouts are you?The bike is erm... i cant even remember which frame it is, its still at home at the moment. Its a long wheelbase 12in aluminium thing; very gussetted and braced. A friend runs a bike shop and got it knocked down because it wasnt painted.Will a disk on the back cause the spokes to flex too much? Perhaps because the XC bike and wheelset is so light, but the minis do lock up incredibly well, even when compared with much bigger brakes i've tried. Didnt experience any flexing mucking about hopping gaps.Never had much luck with the HS33s when i rode them, perfectly set up with new (broken in) pads i was never impressed with the locking power and ofc modulation was shite but i could easily stick one on the back. I hate the wear rate of the decent pads...Maybe i could re-lace the back with a beefier rim, what would you recommend? Also, which tyres should i run? I've got a few pairs of 2.1 hutchinsons (was considering for the front) or some crap old Tioga DH 2.35. Maybe a Maxxis hi-roller dual ply 2.5 for the back?I've noticed quite a few riders using suspension over rigids, i have access to a pair of DMR cromo rigids or Magura Phaons; which pair should i run sensibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yeah am at manchester uni, where abouts are you?The bike is erm... i cant even remember which frame it is, its still at home at the moment. Its a long wheelbase 12in aluminium thing; very gussetted and braced. A friend runs a bike shop and got it knocked down because it wasnt painted.Will a disk on the back cause the spokes to flex too much? Perhaps because the XC bike and wheelset is so light, but the minis do lock up incredibly well, even when compared with much bigger brakes i've tried. Didnt experience any flexing mucking about hopping gaps.Never had much luck with the HS33s when i rode them, perfectly set up with new (broken in) pads i was never impressed with the locking power and ofc modulation was shite but i could easily stick one on the back. I hate the wear rate of the decent pads...Maybe i could re-lace the back with a beefier rim, what would you recommend? Also, which tyres should i run? I've got a few pairs of 2.1 hutchinsons (was considering for the front) or some crap old Tioga DH 2.35. Maybe a Maxxis hi-roller dual ply 2.5 for the back?I've noticed quite a few riders using suspension over rigids, i have access to a pair of DMR cromo rigids or Magura Phaons; which pair should i run sensibly?Yeah I'm at Manchester too - I live in Withington.The disc thing - there's no real reason not to run them. Spoke flex is a bit subjective and I wouldn't worry about it. If they lock well enough then I'd keep them - a few people are starting to use rear discs now in trials. The main problem is that not many discs are really powerful enough, and they feel a bit different to rim brakes (not as grabby, which is sometimes what you want). The other thing is that it's very easy to bend discs - E.g. when sidehopping. If you get an HS33 with some real decent pads (I don't just mean the Magura red pads) on the back, you can't go wrong really.As for the tyres, a lot of people swear by the Maxxis dual ply ones so they're a decent bet (better than the tiogas anyway). You might want to get the 2.35 versionrather than the 2.5 Just make sure it'll fit in your frame. Out of the ones you've got, the Hutch might be a bit narrow for a rear tyre. The Tiogas are OK but they're not terribly grippy and they're heavy. But certainly if you want to save some money, then you could run the Tioga for now.No trials riders use suspension forks these days, apart from a handful of Americans. And if you're using it for commuting, rigid is better anyway. Just make sure you get a big fat lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidstupid... Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 weeerrrlll i'd seen Ryan Leech and ofc old riders like Hans Ray using suspension... just wondered. I think the DMR rigids are a bit heavy. Will also try the minis, they've always been unbelievably powerful and lock up no problem. As for bending; if it bends it bends. Better than it sitting in a box.The Tiogas i have are kevlar, so should be a bit lighter and more pinch resistant than steel bead at least. I'll run those for now, see how things go.What you reckon to rear rim? Am so out of sync with bike components... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 D521s (or 721s as they're now called) are fine. Plenty strong enough. But wider rims are a bit better for trials as the tyre folds less and it can help grip. D521s are actually too narrow to fit in certain frames (the brakes don't reach, though this won't matter if you're using discs). Mavic don't make any wide rims really, so most trials riders use the likes of Koxx/Onza/Echo etc rims which are a bit wider but not as strong. I reckon just stick with the 521s for now.I forgot to say the other reason why people don't use discs - they break frames. Not really sure how much of a problem this is, but it's something to look out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 YAY more people to ride with in manchester. I live 20 min away but will seriously come anytime as i love manc. erm, im out of riding for next 2 weeks but after that im all yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 You could try and get some long planet x knifen forks or similar will be the same lengthish as dmr ones but not as heavy.A 22T and a cassette will be fine for commuting, unless it absolute miles and miles.You could always try a vee brake on the back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitrex Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 i live in withington, show me a few spots dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsy Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 8th of march 2007.. Can't be all the search found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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