Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Okay so it was eye catching and still is....but is very come. Zona, Cazar, many ranges of Koxx have it.So do you think it's lame or not?Also have you lot got some close up's.Desging my new set of frame (Wright Bike/Pad's unsure which brand) and just looking at ideas and way to take current styles and amke them better to look, better to function and to ride.Proto out soon with hopefully one full member here ridding it too!!!Oh what other styles of headtube/top/downtube arangments are there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) will this do pete?use wright bike BTWothers are:and the old level boss styleeee Edited February 14, 2007 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) clearly - a normal deng headtube circa 2004 is up to the job - pretty much none have failed, and i would say are just as light weight (if not lighter) than current machined monstrosities (spells badly).honestly - a normal headtube join is fine. these days there are more important areas on a bike that will fail well before the headtube join. Unless of course you are fatmike.and i prefer the way a normal headtube looks - particularily with skinny tubing. Edited February 14, 2007 by manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Don;t worry i have taken your though on bord. Geo you'll hate but i love it!I'm looking at whats out there and tweaking it into soemthing better that works but is eye catching but strong, stiff and not going to fail.Cheers for the photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgun_Donor Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Same geo as your other proto? Just with tubing and not cheese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onza Kieron Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Scott Octane? I kinda win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) I win.LMAO i like the rear to what it's attached too, kitchen draws as ''wheels''Same geo as your other proto? Just with tubing and not cheese?This is my frame not my sponser Darren. Cheese? I wish cos i'm hungry. You know what proto means yeah?? Well that one you saw and had a go at rididng was a proto the very 1st so it's allwoed to have issues nowt works 1st time Edited February 14, 2007 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Allows you to change inserts between 1,1/8th" and 1.5". And when you rotate the insert 180deg it will change the head angle by something like 2 deg. Do I win?I'm another believer in the traditional style ones. A ring reinforced headtube, with 2 tubes that just touch and an open ended plate gusset at the top and bottom is what I would consider to be the best set-up. Its just tried and tested, and works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Allows you to change inserts between 1,1/8th" and 1.5". And when you rotate the insert 180deg it will change the head angle by something like 2 deg. Do I win?I'm another believer in the traditional style ones. A ring reinforced headtube, with 2 tubes that just touch and an open ended plate gusset at the top and bottom is what I would consider to be the best set-up. Its just tried and tested, and works.Yep you do but last time i saw that in use some kid had a pretty nasty accident at Cwmn Carn. Plus i have seen it come lose so it for trials na not for me. The option to chnage geo can be fun, but then making it safe and cost effective is hard.STD style is what i am thinking, but i'm looking to see whats out and what can be mixed and matched and imporved on but a std ring reniforced headtube will never get beaten or unloved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20inchsuperstar Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 i own you alldid the tour-de-france ill have you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Allows you to change inserts between 1,1/8th" and 1.5". And when you rotate the insert 180deg it will change the head angle by something like 2 deg. Do I win?I'm another believer in the traditional style ones. A ring reinforced headtube, with 2 tubes that just touch and an open ended plate gusset at the top and bottom is what I would consider to be the best set-up. Its just tried and tested, and works.Why do some have open ended welds and some don't? What's better? Does the tube shape have any effect? what about materials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 LMAO i like the rear to what it's attached too, kitchen draws as ''wheels''This is my frame not my sponser Darren. Cheese? I wish cos i'm hungry. You know what proto means yeah?? Well that one you saw and had a go at rididng was a proto the very 1st so it's allwoed to have issues nowt works 1st timeSince when did frsh products sponsor you. I don't see you on here anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) well... this is his proto made by arron... its not the actual one, but a photoshopped image, but since then he has had the real one built... Edited February 14, 2007 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom 20 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 well... this is his proto made by arron... its not the actual one, but a photoshopped image, but since then he has had the real one built...Are there any proper pictures of the one he built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Yeah f**king load of it being built and of it sat on my kitchen table but you aint gonan see them for a bit yet as Mk2 be along soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgun_Donor Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 This is my frame not my sponser Darren. Cheese? I wish cos i'm hungry. You know what proto means yeah?? Well that one you saw and had a go at rididng was a proto the very 1st so it's allwoed to have issues nowt works 1st timeCalm down, Was just describing what it was like, a bike made of cheese, ive ridden bikes with some flex, at the brake mounts, but none that twisted bent and rattled like that thing. I wouldnt really call it a prototype, more of a design model that failed. 2 Plates of metal held together by... what 5 bolts you had in it, for the main part of the frame. And 2 for the rear triangle... 2 bolts was it? or 4 holding that on? And you could twist the whole frame with your hands!!!!And ill think you find lots works first time. If you plan and think about it properly, there may just be things that could improve.So ok let me re-phrase the question i asked -Same geo as your other proto? Just with tubing and not plates of cheese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Calm down, Was just describing what it was like, a bike made of cheese, ive ridden bikes with some flex, at the brake mounts, but none that twisted bent and rattled like that thing. I wouldnt really call it a prototype, more of a design model that failed. 2 Plates of metal held together by... what 5 bolts you had in it, for the main part of the frame. And 2 for the rear triangle... 2 bolts was it? or 4 holding that on? And you could twist the whole frame with your hands!!!!And ill think you find lots works first time. If you plan and think about it properly, there may just be things that could improve.So ok let me re-phrase the question i asked -Same geo as your other proto? Just with tubing and not plates of cheese?You know what i can;t be assed to answer that at all as 1 you twist it, 2 you'll keep on going and 3 why should i.Parts thank you, really nice clean pic and shows a nice color.Topic over now as i can go draw and play with cad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Why do some have open ended welds and some don't? What's better? Does the tube shape have any effect? what about materials?I'm not entirely sure what it is that causes it, but someone did a load of testing and came to a conclusive result that open ended gusseting is stronger around headtubes. I'd like to know why this is though.Edit: When I say someone I mean a Major bike producer, Specialized springs to mind, someone like that anyway. Edited February 14, 2007 by Dont you Just Hate it When... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I'm not entirely sure what it is that causes it, but someone did a load of testing and came to a conclusive result that open ended gusseting is stronger around headtubes. I'd like to know why this is though.Edit: When I say someone I mean a Major bike producer, Specialized springs to mind, someone like that anyway.is it not something to do the transfer of forces. in the same way you would drill a crack, so the force would dissipate round the circle evenly.rather than focusing on a point(the base of a crack). sure it was a similar principle with this. u welded a gusset that came to a point, youd be creating a place where a huge force focused. and altho a welded circular close gusset would dissipate force. by having it open ended. itd run down the down tube, thus dissipating over a massive area. or something similar to that. sure i remember reading that a couple of years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I am pretty sure open ended gussets spread the strain down the whole tube and fully welded gussets just concentrate them into one point.(as has been said)theres no point in a cnc head tube xtp styl bit, it just adds weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Some reason, that pic looks the f**king dogs bollocks!Would be a mint background pic that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Some reason, that pic looks the f**king dogs bollocks!Would be a mint background pic thatI agree, shame his crutch is in the pic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 It's not......his crotch however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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