Gavyn. Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I've been offered an apprenticeship with a few oil companies now, most of which involve me going offshore for 2 weeks and then home for 3 weeks. It looks great with some of the best holidays around and 30k more a year for doing the job offshore compared to onshore, but if i work onshore i get a company car and a decent pension scheme but i also have to work all the time (not 2 on 3 off)The thing I'm most worried about going offshore is the fact that I'm miles out to sea and the accomodation sounds crap. plus i don't like flying and i'll have to be turned upside down in a helicopter simulator under water anyone work offshore and can maybe clear up the accomodation and that helicopter thing cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 30k more then working on-shore?You f**king what, i'd be straight out there. For 30k i'd sleep on the floor for 2 weeks, let alone 30k more then what ever on-shore people earn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 yeah but you get a half-assed pension scheme and have to buy your own car where as on shore as soon as i'm 18 i can get any company car up to group 16 insurance and a mint pension scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 30k a year, buy your own fooking car! haha.Pensions are f**ked, no one will have one in 10-15 years, so i wouldn't worry about that too much.Plus, working off shore, you'll become a man, and be able to break bulls necks with the blink of an eye, and all that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 yeah but you get a half-assed pension scheme and have to buy your own car where as on shore as soon as i'm 18 i can get any company car up to group 16 insurance and a mint pension scheme with that kinda money, buying your own car wont be an issue dude...and make your own pension savings, an extra 30k will go a LONG way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Not going to be 5 star accomodation is it!Course you have to do heli simulations, what happens if one you are in goes down in a storm, like the one of morecambe bay the other month that killed about 8 people??If you cant get out in a simulator, then you wont pass and go onto the rig.It's all health and safety and done for your benefit.Do you not like water or something?You do advanced swimming and stuff, i was going to go on the rigs after i finished my national diploma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 the whole idea is though when everyone elses pensions f**k up mine will still be all good and i suppose i could afford my own car. I've also got think about when I'm older with the "lack" of oil and do i really want to be out in the middle of nowhere working hard as fook leaving a wife and kids at home I'm thinking about going offshore for maybe 10 years then coming back to a job onshore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David20 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) My dad works off-shore, he says that the helicopter thing isn't bad at all. I'm pretty sure you have to be 18 to go off-shore though? EDIT: When doing the under-water thing there are life guards with you, people who can't even swim have done it and if you can't get out you get helped from the lifeguards. Edited January 31, 2007 by David20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Oil will be gone in about 50 years anyway at the rate its running out now.Pensions arent the be all and end all.Make a saving account that you cant access till you are say 40, and add like £200 a month to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Not going to be 5 star accomodation is it!Course you have to do heli simulations, what happens if one you are in goes down in a storm, like the one of morecambe bay the other month that killed about 8 people??If you cant get out in a simulator, then you wont pass and go onto the rig.It's all health and safety and done for your benefit.Do you not like water or something?You do advanced swimming and stuff, i was going to go on the rigs after i finished my national diploma.as far as i'm concerned if a heli is going down your going to die if not from intial impact from the cold 3 mins later even in a dry-suit but the heli thing that i do now has window's but they also give you a re-breather so thats fine.My dad works off-shore, he says that the helicopter thing isn't bad at all. I'm pretty sure you have to be 18 to go off-shore though? EDIT: When doing the under-water thing there are life guards with you, people who can't even swim have done it and if you can't get out you get helped from the lifeguards.yeah i knew all that but i will still be shitting it like! and by the time i've done the 18 months training i have to do i'll be 18 anyway Oil will be gone in about 50 years anyway at the rate its running out now.Pensions arent the be all and end all.Make a saving account that you cant access till you are say 40, and add like £200 a month to it they will find more oil though and remember they can now go back to old wells because of new drilling techniques so oil will last longer than 50 years and they'll discover new ways of drilling even deeper to find more oil aswellpensions aren't the be all and end all but they are importantI wasn't scared of water until last year when i got stuck inside my kayak upside down for 2 mins it was pretty terifying and has kind of put me off being submerged underwater in any kind of container Edited January 31, 2007 by Gavyn L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 you do realise how much of a stupidly good deal working offshore is. for them 2 weeks your offshore. you dont have any cost of living, your accomadation, food, washing, tv,internet, etc is all totally free.so is gunna work out a lot more than £30k of difference. secondly as for the company car thing, working offshore,your earning 30k more a year, you could buy a tidy car for 10k every year. and at the end sell if for nothing. and still be £20k a year better off. also youd only be running a car for just over half the year. so youd be spending less on fuel,insurance etc.and your car would last longer between services, and just generally.as for pensions, your blowing 10k a year on a car(which is a very nice company car 1 year old.) itll sel for about £6-£9k depending on depriciation most likely. you could just save that £6k-£9k a year yourself, and have a lot better prospects than any pension were paying into right now).and even after all that lot, your still £20,000 up. altho bear in mind, i wouldnt be 100% your GF will be faithful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'd do it without a doubt.With a family and such I wouldn't but in my current situation, no attachment's, i' definately go for it.You can allways quit, your still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 my ex's dad works all over the world. currently just off egypt. He is on daft money @ 110,000USD a year. Reckons he don't do too much either. Thing is he's an ex pat, so can only be inb this country for 80 days a year. Needless to say, it takes its toll on close ones.Once you're on the rigs, you can move up, and you can move companies with a click of the fingers by how he works. Constantly working for new people and getting emails asking him to come to another company.I wouldn't do it for all the money in the world mate, but you're thinking, so you may as well try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 You can start your own pension scheme up, you just wont have a company to contribute. Besides, you dont have to stick at it forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineasmithpig Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 i'm a little confused. how have you gone about getting an apprenticeship on over £30k a year at 16?and why the hell are you having second thoughts! nutter! i'm here sloggin away at a degree with ANOTHER 3 years to go just to give me a chance at gettin a job as good as that!!and again, please answer the first question so i can quit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 yeah but you get a half-assed pension scheme and have to buy your own car where as on shore as soon as i'm 18 i can get any company car up to group 16 insurance and a mint pension scheme ??????guniesmithpig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineasmithpig Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 yeah but you get a half-assed pension scheme and have to buy your own car where as on shore as soon as i'm 18 i can get any company car up to group 16 insurance and a mint pension scheme he's currently 16 (according to his profile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 oh my god what a f**king retard, i was on lots of drugs last nite, due to me braking my self and i was convinced that said as im 18lolidiotsorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineasmithpig Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 s'alrite fellastill amazed at the deal this guy is getting. tell us how! i want some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 i'm 16 just now but i'll have to complete 18 months of training and the coarse starts in september so i'll be 18 when i'm earning decent money and i'll go straight in on 50k and after completing another 18 months of training it should go up to around 70k so on land i'd be earning 40k.i like the idea of working abroad aswell because the money is daft my dads mate who is in a very similar job to the one i'd be getting is making about 150K a year I'm pretty sure I'm going to go now because i could afford a fun car and a run about and if i live with my parents till I'm 20 I'll be able to afford a small house of flat around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 i'm 16 just now but i'll have to complete 18 months of training and the coarse starts in september so i'll be 18 when i'm earning decent money and i'll go straight in on 50k and after completing another 18 months of training it should go up to around 70k so on land i'd be earning 40k.i like the idea of working abroad aswell because the money is daft my dads mate who is in a very similar job to the one i'd be getting is making about 150K a year I'm pretty sure I'm going to go now because i could afford a fun car and a run about and if i live with my parents till I'm 20 I'll be able to afford a small house of flat around here.i think ur slightly daydreaming myself, 50k for someone who is 18. im not so sure to be honest. my dads on no more than that and he was the OIM (offshore installation manager) basically the effin captain. someone is bunking up the amount you get paid. and i certainly dont think you will be earning 50K as soon as you hit 18. and sometimes you do exaggerate gav. seriously exaggerate..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Plus 3 weeks off as well after 2 weeks of work thats great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 definatly not exagerating, i'l show you the letter i got from them if you like! it's only because the job i want to do is in great demand just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 For 30k i'd sleep on the floor for 2 weeks, let alone 30k more then what ever on-shore people earn.You certainly couldn't buy a house in the south on 30k alone so it's not that exciting - you'd be hard pushed on 50k to be honest.it is bloody, bloody good money at 18 though and like Simon I'd definitely sleep on the floor of an oil rig for a wage like that if I was just starting out.I'd say just go for it - if you don't like it give up and go home, theres no shame in that. It's not quite the same but I had to ddo exactly that when I moved out to Greece to work. I had a phone interview on thursday afternoon, got offered the job on Friday morning, panicked for half an hour, thought "oh f**kit, why not" and I was living in Athens on Saturday night. 18 months later I'd decided I didnt like it very much so I came back here. Employers like people who've done interesting stuff - they remember you as 'the bloke that lived in greece' when reviewing all their applicants. Working on an offshore rig - even if it's only for a month - is something theyll remember plus its a hard job to do so you've got instant respect for having even tried it which can only help you out regardless of what kind of job you're applying for later.if you get me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 50k my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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