NirZionTrials Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Hey guys,just wanted to share with you my disapointment from the Middleburn Super pro Trials one-piece Steel bashring.that is for 2 main reasons1. in the last 3 months i riped my chain 5 times, in two of times got hurt, not somthing hesterical but.. Hey.. it hurts.2. decided to put a new k810 chain instead of my old one, but the chain keeps on skiping since the Bashring is carved acording to the old chain.so to make sure, i cleaned the bashring, back sproket and the tensioner, oiled the chain and made sure the links are loose and flexy.did not help. so i figured if a put alot of presure on the new chain, that it will strech out to the fit the carved bashring.started to ride but just coudnt, since everytime i put presure on the cranks the chain got stuck between the Chainstay and the Bashring. so it was fun while it lasted, and it did give me alot of clearence but its not worth the pain and hassle for me.so i am moving to Regular Middleburn pro Bash, back to 22:19 Ratio and wider and stonger chains K710 or Collapse.Thats, just thought to share that with you guys, Edited January 27, 2007 by NirZionTrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Hey guys,so i am moving to Regular Middleburn pro Bash, back to 22:19 Ratio and wider and stonger chains K710 or Collapse.I'm running a k710 on mine at the minute Edited January 28, 2007 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Not really a surprise with the chain snappage. The smaller the sprocket is, the more stress is put on the chain.That's why I wouldn't even think about running 16t up front.22t for the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirZionTrials Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Not really a surprise with the chain snappage. The smaller the sprocket is, the more stress is put on the chain.That's why I wouldn't even think about running 16t up front.22t for the win!I knew that before, but couldnt help myself with trying it out, but for me its just not working.need to agree with you on that, 22t for the win, i guess thats the best Trade off Clearence Vs Strength of Chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 if you calculate the clearance lost as a percentage and then the strength gained from a 22t sprocket.. will favour the sprocket im sure. the burn bashguards are fairly oversized anyway so can be machined a certian amount too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 if you calculate the clearance lost as a percentage and then the strength gained from a 22t sprocket.. will favour the sprocket im sure. the burn bashguards are fairly oversized anyway so can be machined a certian amount too.18tooth for the win There will be a 3rd choice of splined Middleburn's bash in a few weeks time, and this one will be the first to have enough axial space for the widest trials chains No more chain interference issues and having to wear in the bash/chain to work together.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 is that because they realise no one wanted the steel bash anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hey guys,just wanted to share with you my disapointment from the Middleburn Super pro Trials one-piece Steel bashring.that is for 2 main reasons1. in the last 3 months i riped my chain 5 times, in two of times got hurt, not somthing hesterical but.. Hey.. it hurts.2. decided to put a new k810 chain instead of my old one, but the chain keeps on skiping since the Bashring is carved acording to the old chain.so to make sure, i cleaned the bashring, back sproket and the tensioner, oiled the chain and made sure the links are loose and flexy.did not help. so i figured if a put alot of presure on the new chain, that it will strech out to the fit the carved bashring.started to ride but just coudnt, since everytime i put presure on the cranks the chain got stuck between the Chainstay and the Bashring. so it was fun while it lasted, and it did give me alot of clearence but its not worth the pain and hassle for me.so i am moving to Regular Middleburn pro Bash, back to 22:19 Ratio and wider and stonger chains K710 or Collapse.Thats, just thought to share that with you guys,try taking a pair of links out of your chain, trust me i had this problem about 3weeks ago18tooth for the win There will be a 3rd choice of splined Middleburn's bash in a few weeks time, and this one will be the first to have enough axial space for the widest trials chains No more chain interference issues and having to wear in the bash/chain to work together.Stevenice one steve, i was just going to suggest that. i saw mikes again yesterday, yummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirZionTrials Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 try taking a pair of links out of your chain, trust me i had this problem about 3weeks agoCant do that, if i take a link out the chain will be too short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I'm running a k710 on mine at the minute Mate, quoting a 20 line post to add one line is hardly worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Cant do that, if i take a link out the chain will be too shortyou tried a split link, a fair few people do it.when you say, iut get caught in the chainstay, does it bite chunky strips out of the frame? mine did, get a rohloff for good tension and then try the split link thing, if that doesnt work, then i am out of ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Mate, quoting a 20 line post to add one line is hardly worth it!Sorry hadn't realised i had... i'll change it now :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 ahh, just seen you have an 06 control, exactly the same as me, go 16-14 gear ratio, and have 37 pairs of links, with a rohloff, and it solved the problem, TRUST ME ITS WHATS ON MINE NOW, only problem is the rohloffs cost loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTF Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 18tooth for the win There will be a 3rd choice of splined Middleburn's bash in a few weeks time, and this one will be the first to have enough axial space for the widest trials chains No more chain interference issues and having to wear in the bash/chain to work together.SteveWill that fit a 22T, 21T, 20T, 19T, 18T, 17T or 16T chainring? Or something smaller? or Bigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 It's 18tooth only. There's not enough land on the 17 and 16tooth sprockets for the required bolt holes, and larger than 18tooth means the chain will be exposed!With a seperate sprocket, the sprocket can be cost effectively "Hard Chromed" to vastly lengthen its life compared to a stanless steel sprocket which is part of the bash. The bash life is no longer limited by the sprocket life either Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 will favour the sprocket im sure. the burn bashguards are fairly oversized anyway so can be machined a certian amount too.Yep, been running a 18T chainring and 16T rockring for over a year now. Not only has my chain lasted almost 2 years, it's in perfect order and has just the right clearance not to get damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirZionTrials Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 ahh, just seen you have an 06 control, exactly the same as me, go 16-14 gear ratio, and have 37 pairs of links, with a rohloff, and it solved the problem, TRUST ME ITS WHATS ON MINE NOW, only problem is the rohloffs cost loadskennard you are right on my friend, thats exactly what happns.i have a 74kings Tensioner on the way, dont know if it will be stong...i have no idea where i can get a half like for that chain... any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thats, just thought to share that with you guys,Mint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 kennard you are right on my friend, thats exactly what happns.i have a 74kings Tensioner on the way, dont know if it will be stong...i have no idea where i can get a half like for that chain... any ideas?i think split links come with KMC kool chains new, if not, then you could buy an entire splitlink chain to try. get from bmx shops, online or instore i imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 by splitlink i take it you mean halflink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 by splitlink i take it you mean halflink?yeah, theyre the same thing i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeah, theyre the same thing i thinkSplit links a link that can be undone to easily undo the chain without the need for a chain tool. Half link is a single link that removes the need to take both the small and large sections (two effective links worth) of chain and has one large end and one small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 to clear this up once and for all half linksplit linkor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirZionTrials Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thanks for clearing that up as i see it, both are the same Lenght, thus adding the same lenght to the chain, so dose it matter what you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thanks for clearing that up as i see it, both are the same Lenght, thus adding the same lenght to the chain, so dose it matter what you use?Split links replace a single link in the chain, usually the larger links in between each small one. Half links replace BOTH a large and small link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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