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I may be told this should have gone in the best of internet, but i think it deseres it's own thread.

Watch these videos:

"Drifting"

and

Personally, i think that is one hell of an amazing skill, and lovely music. Just be better if people like these were more famous with a decent skill than some people like Jade Goody for example.

Any thoughts??

"Envy them" :)

Edit: Well I guess they are famous, but i've never heard of them, but you get me (Y)

Drifting i like much more :)

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I don't think it's that impressive. I mean it's good but I bet it's not as hard as it looks, and the tunes were hardly anything special. Reminds me of Yngwie Malmsteen's stuff - technically amazing but really really boring to listen to.

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i have absolutely no idea on the difficulty of guitarplay, but this looks very diffucult

just look at the first clip on the hand/finger work, seems so complicated, and the guy just sits there relaxed like it's nothing

i'm quite amazed by this, i always have alot of respect for people who put alot of commitment and dedication into their hobby's and these guys seem like they do :)

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i like that air tap and in all fairness its pretty difficult to recreate tomm. i agree with the yngwie comment, hes a genius on guitar and technically amazing. yet his songs are bored ( cheesy as hell), a little self endulgent lol

anyway if you liked air tap this by a guitarist called justin king is awesome

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I understand where Tomm is coming from, but for these songs in my opinion I don\'t really think it\'s relevant, stuff like Victor Wooten doesn\'t really trip my trigger, but Louis Johnson is awesome, and ther arn\'t many pieces I can\'t listen to and enjoy.

Nowhere near as melodic as these guys on acoustics, but bass is a rythm instrument, as such, kick ass rythms apply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ1f2WV7JAw

Is probably my favourite example of Luis Johnson.

Edit: Was going to post a link to Guns or Knives, but the song which I'm thinking of, has been taken down...

If anyone has a way of hosting it, I'll send it them, as it is completely awesome.

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Bass solos are gay, very very gay. But this is nice, it's also fun, which helps :)

Joe x

I disagree, I think they are legitimate as instrument to solo as any other, however, it depends on your tastes.

I do find most bass solos a bit annoying, but Stu Hamm and Louis Johnson are leages above. I couldn't listen to a Billy Sheenhan solo, because as far as I'm concerned, that's not really very musical, same applies for Victor Wooten, only piece I like by him is 'Me and My Bass Guitar'

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I liked em. I'll probably have to check out all the other ones in the thread when I'm not meant to be revising for exams...

A lot of music like this probably wouldn't really make good 'songs' but that's not necessarily the point, sometimes it's good just to watch someone really in control of their instrument and playing things you haven't seen before. (Well I hadn't seen some of that stuff anyway)

and bass solos don't have to be gay...

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I like bass solos, but then im biased, as i play bass. I think guitar solos sound more impressive though. I think sheehan is good but repetative. Stu Hamm is a better bass player in my opinion. Just thought i would share my veiws.

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I like bass solos, but then im biased, as i play bass. I think guitar solos sound more impressive though. I think sheehan is good but repetative. Stu Hamm is a better bass player in my opinion. Just thought i would share my veiws.

Haha yeah, don't get me wrong I'm a bass player too. I'd much rather hear a nice, tight groove than a solo though...

This really has got merit as a solo piece though, I reckon, the orchestration kicks ass.

Joe x

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Deffo the first one

im really into that kind of music, i love anything acoustic, it just a rore sound like a grand piano, i love piano on its own. I think it really lets out the sole in a song, which if any of you are a musican then sole is very important.

I don't believe in reading music..... i think you dont "get into" the song as you would if you wasnt looking at a bit of paper.

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Usually people who 'read music' are classically trained musicians who are reading a score of an orchestrated piece. Therefore if an orchestra is in the middle of Tchaikovsky's Symphony 6 in B minor, if one of the violinist were suddenly to get a rush of SOUL then i dont think it would quite fit in with the piece, as that isnt a place for improvising, you are following a set out piece of music, and you are following instructions from a conductor as when to change pace, they will get into it in their own way, but you cold never expect the orchestra to play without the music infront of them. Many classical musicians if you were to take a score away from them would find it very hard to play anythign at all, as music to them is about playing set pieces not improvising and writing their own stuff.

The majority of music around, from bands for example who have written their own music, memebers would never play from sheet music, thats nto to say each time the song is played live it will differ, it just wont come from a score. For example if you look at a rubbish band like 'Snow Patrol' any of their songs live will sound just like the record, eahc night they're played they will sound the same...whereas with a band like the Chili Peppers or Gnarls Barkley the song will differ each night, whether it be in tempo, feel, or in terms of the chilis, each solo on every performance will differ as Flea (bass) and John (guitar) will improvise rather than play the version on the record.

Playing by feel is very important, not many people do it, even less have the bility of confidence to truly improvise over their music, but it is not as clear cut as saying all music shouldn't be played from a score, it depends entirelly on the type of music being played.

Very few bands have soul, or even have a great understanding of music, like for example a guitarist having a lot of musical theory knowledge doesnt mean they cant play be feel, as they are constrained by the boundaries of music theory, i can open up your mind, most musicians who say ''i dont know any theory, i just play be feel'', are ignorant and lazy they cant be bothered to learn or dont have the intelligence, written music and understanding the rules beind music is very important, as once you know the rules, you should know how to break them!

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To sum the above post up in one sentence.

"To become a good guitarrist, you must learn loads of theory, to become a great guitarrist, you must forget it all"

I can relate! For my Grade 8 Rockschool, it involved tons of Theory! For real plkaying instances, you don't need to know it all, but play from your heart!

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