Hendrix Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 not turbo'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Trouble with the honda engines is they make f/a torque...not much good as soon as there are people/ballast in the car..Actually they make similar torque to any other engine with the same displacement, they just make more power. So compare a 1.6 vtec with another 1.6 and torque values will be in the same ball park (obviously there will be differences and the Honda "may" even have slightly less), but compare the same engine with another making the same power (158bhp for the uk engine) and it will loose on torque quite convincingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Actually they make similar torque to any other engine with the same displacement, they just make more power. So compare a 1.6 vtec with another 1.6 and torque values will be in the same ball park (obviously there will be differences and the Honda "may" even have slightly less), but compare the same engine with another making the same power (158bhp for the uk engine) and it will loose on torque quite convincingly.Also, the vtec engines make up for low torque by revving higher... remember power is what you get from (basically) torque (twisting force of the engine) x rpm. So a turbo engine gets the power by having a lower rev band but a higher torque, and an na with variable cams makes it by revving higher to make to most power out of the small amount of torque it has. So in the end, if a turbo and na vtec engine are in the right gears to make the same power (the na revving higher) then the pull will be the same. Its less of one and more of the other. So deisels can get power low down cos of the high torque, but cant rev higher to make the most use of it.What we want is a revvy vtec engine with a turbo... come on honda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Civic R ? The New One Maybe .... that's just been released, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Civic R ? The New One Maybe .... that's just been released, I think. Same engine as the old one unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Same engine as the old one unfortunatelyDanm! I thought they'd re-worked it!What about that Lotus/Vauxhall thing Lotus Made...3369ccand produces roughly over 350bhp I think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Danm! I thought they'd re-worked it!What about that Lotus/Vauxhall thing Lotus Made...3369ccand produces roughly over 350bhp I think....twin turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 twin turbodanm it! I thought Lotus left it as standard!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 It's gotta be a Austin Metro. Surely.When do we get the answer anyway lol(For those that are genuinely thick, my answer was a joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofreak Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hendrixmaster, have you even read the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hendrixmaster, have you even read the question?Good Point!It's gotta be a Austin Metro. Surely.HA HA, Great cars! Drive like Go-Karts though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitbat Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 When do we get the answer anyway lolThats the bit im wondering,or maybe there isn't an answer and its just a question to get people talking, spose we'll find out soon enoughFrooty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Same engine as the old one unfortunatelyTrue but they have altered the power delivery so help it overcome the extra weight. There are also reports that the chassis is a vast improvement from the outgoing (EP) Type-R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 True but they have altered the power delivery so help it overcome the extra weight. There are also reports that the chassis is a vast improvement from the outgoing (EP) Type-R.You know your cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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