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Are Zona Zenith any good. What are better Adamant A1 07 or Zona Zenith and by how much.

Hey I would say that the zenith is better5 because its cheap and has a really nice geo. But the admant is the more popular one if the two. I want to get a zenith. :wub:

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If i was to briefly summarise how i see other people ride the two, i would say zonas are fun, silly, mess around hopping everywhere kind of bikes (think exagerated hops and large bunnyhops etc)... while the adamnt is a more calcualted style of bike.... little hops, then massive big gaps, then little hops again.

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Zenith has input behind it from a UK man. He thinks about it properly and as too making money making us happy. A very amazing frame for a great price with a King Headset.

Deng just see $ Toyko and us ridding lots of his copied and cheaply made stuff.

what is everyones problems with deng, it winds me up as without deng we would be riding either overpriced euro stuff, or onza(fine but not much variety)

echo zoo adament GU are all strong reliable frames. and on the 07 frames the geo is great. i guess people dont like sucessful companys.

how many cracked deng frames made in the last 3 years do you see ? very few.

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what is everyones problems with deng, it winds me up as without deng we would be riding either overpriced euro stuff, or onza(fine but not much variety)

echo zoo adament GU are all strong reliable frames. and on the 07 frames the geo is great. i guess people dont like sucessful companys.

how many cracked deng frames made in the last 3 years do you see ? very few.

Only seen 1 pure that hasn;t died in 06, every other seen them all fail.

Conrols seen fail loads

He make one product and tweak it to look differnt and color and differnt name. lame and pafetic and nothing of his own style truely.

He did good with Echo in the begining now he's a saleman and not trying to help out more

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He did good with Echo in the begining now he's a saleman and not trying to help out more

He is in it to make a living though Pete, good businessmen are ruthless and don't give a shit about anything other than making money, making business. May not be the nicest/most sensitive people, but business (or salesmen as you say) are out to make money.

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Only seen 1 pure that hasn;t died in 06, every other seen them all fail.

Conrols seen fail loads

He make one product and tweak it to look differnt and color and differnt name. lame and pafetic and nothing of his own style truely.

He did good with Echo in the begining now he's a saleman and not trying to help out more

for the pure, they discontinued them due to the strength issue, koxx had issues with the caisso, vinco and 20inch xtp so companys can produce a bad frame without making the company bad

and about controls. i know of only one 05 control to break and that was fatmikes (sorry mike singleton) and one 04 which was Rossi's, please enlighten me on the other ones.

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He is in it to make a living though Pete, good businessmen are ruthless and don't give a shit about anything other than making money, making business. May not be the nicest/most sensitive people, but business (or salesmen as you say) are out to make money.

Oh i take my hat off to hgim and lay my coat over a puddle for him as he was made some many more people involved but it's how he has done it and people have let him and now are not liking it. Love how he make the same product 5x time differnt name and tweak tothe shape yet same thing and masses of kids use there mums money to buy it.

for the pure, they discontinued them due to the strength issue, koxx had issues with the caisso, vinco and 20inch xtp so companys can produce a bad frame without making the company bad

and about controls. i know of only one 05 control to break and that was fatmikes (sorry mike singleton) and one 04 which was Rossi's, please enlighten me on the other ones.

Andrie Burton, and i have seen many others but i don;t know there names as i don;t see reason too

Vinco still goes, XTP is a problem within it;s self just look at it.

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Oh i take my hat off to hgim and lay my coat over a puddle for him as he was made some many more people involved but it's how he has done it and people have let him and now are not liking it. Love how he make the same product 5x time differnt name and tweak tothe shape yet same thing and masses of kids use there mums money to buy it.

Andrie Burton, and i have seen many others but i don;t know there names as i don;t see reason too

Vinco still goes, XTP is a problem within it;s self just look at it.

the first version of the vincos were lasting like 2 weeks due to a hole in the wrong place. mod xtps are now stronger due to restrengthing and redesign.

trust me the control is one of the strongest trials frames on the market.

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what is everyones problems with deng, it winds me up as without deng we would be riding either overpriced euro stuff, or onza(fine but not much variety)

echo zoo adament GU are all strong reliable frames. and on the 07 frames the geo is great. i guess people dont like sucessful companys.

how many cracked deng frames made in the last 3 years do you see ? very few.

i dont see the problem with deng ether chris i would much rather ride a deng frame that a onza or somthing like that if deng didnt make things most people on the forum wound't have as gooder parts on there bike and i also wount have my bike ether :P

chris

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