Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 My last word on disc mounts on the 20" models. The patented rear dropout is currently being re designed by us to incorporate a disc mount. It is not yet ready as there are a lot of parameters. The frames were therefore made with normal dropouts. The production models will have disc mount. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 9/10 for the geo on the stock.Slightly steeper head angle would have made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 My last word on disc mounts on the 20" models. The patented rear dropout is currently being re designed by us to incorporate a disc mount. It is not yet ready as there are a lot of parameters. The frames were therefore made with normal dropouts. The production models will have disc mount. Okay.Okay.Sorry if you said that befor and i missed it, there's been that many posts i've lost track of what's going on. I'd take tomms offer and have all the last few days posts taken out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 The production models will have disc mount. Okay.Best news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 That's made my day, the new dropouts sound rather interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 That's such good news. Nice one guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 a 26" skull would be the icing on the top of the cake nice work guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 a 26" skull would be the icing on the top of the cake nice work guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Is SuperCycles being rebranded as Rock N' Roll Bikes dot com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh PWND Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Is SuperCycles being rebranded as Rock N' Roll Bikes dot com?looks like it as thats there new ebay name aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Zone Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 all these new products are very impressive ! original design and real innovations... onza is doing something big for 2008 ! i put presentation and pictures of these new sexy products on www.tribalzone.fr ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Any news on the tensile mod hubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 the 26 that wayne is riding is MINT i actualy will have one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Is SuperCycles being rebranded as Rock N' Roll Bikes dot com?Hands up if you think that's the shittest name ever......besides supercycles.It's going to be sad to see the old site go, it's been the same since the dawn of time, i think i've just become acustomed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hands up if you think that's the shittest name ever......besides supercycles.I have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 How long have Onza been making those V-dapters on the new site splash screen thing? The ones that look like anodised heatsink ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 How long have Onza been making those V-dapters on the new site splash screen thing? The ones that look like anodised heatsink ones... It's the first time I've seen a decent shot of the V-Adapters. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You're making me blush! :$ Surely you could have at least respun the styling which is what the Zhi chaps did. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) How long have Onza been making those V-dapters on the new site splash screen thing? The ones that look like anodised heatsink ones... I thought the tpro ones where different to that. may be these are new ones?Doesnt inur now make some that are same design as heatsink ones? Edited March 24, 2008 by basher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I thought the tpro ones where different to that.Doesnt inur now make some that are same design as heatsink ones?Firstly, it would be wrong to not give credit to Bonz for the original V adapter idea. There are a number of designs based on the Heatsink ambidextrous form which was my idea on how the Bonz design could be improved. Having looked closely at the Polish V adapters, I approve that the guys have set out to give the design a distinct identity. I reckon there is plenty of scope for some originality of aesthetics even around the essential features of mounting holes and raised boss Please don't let this thread blow up over V adapters this time I apologise for not being able to resist making some cheeky comments! Best of luck with these new frames. You're making some substantial steps forward with these Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Please don't let this thread blow up over V adapters this time.Yeah, my point was just a cheeky observation, I don't want World War III, revenge of the handbags... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 As you will all probably realise, we made those Vee daptors well over eighteen months ago specifically for the T-Pro to fit Vee brakes. It was our take on a design which we know has been around for yonks. It was never intended to produce them as an Onza part precisely because of all the finger pointing and copying accusations which we knew would follow. Unfortunately the fact is that our distributors are now asking for these parts as service replacements and other customers have also pointed out that they are lighter and cheaper than some alternatives. We will therefore be releasing them as an Onza spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Bit of an early start this morning Mike? Will they be machined or cast/forged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 As you will all probably realise, we made those Vee daptors well over eighteen months ago specifically for the T-Pro to fit Vee brakes. It was our take on a design which we know has been around for yonks. It was never intended to produce them as an Onza part precisely because of all the finger pointing and copying accusations which we knew would follow. Unfortunately the fact is that our distributors are now asking for these parts as service replacements and other customers have also pointed out that they are lighter and cheaper than some alternatives. We will therefore be releasing them as an Onza spare.Hi Mike,I don't want to get things kicking off again, but I just wanted to clarify my point about the V adapters. I was amused that the Onza ones (this is the first time I've seen them properly) have the details of the design that look a straight copy of the Heatsink ones. The outline form, the front cavity and logo placement. These details didn't have to be identical, as shown by the Zhi adapters which have also been "inspired" by the refinements shown in my Mk2 adapters (Released 25th of April 2006). The basic concept of the V adapters has been around for yonks in their simplest form, but there have been refinements of the details over time as can be seen in the photos below, left to right.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ok, Think ill nip this one in the butt asap. Yes its obvious there are very similar and yours were the inspiration for ours. But we did not say one day "ooo lets copy them and take some sales" not at all. we needed a V-daptor to put on our T-Pro that has been around for a few years. If we did think like we are being portrayed as don't you think we would have brought these products out the same time as the T-Pro came about? Also, We have not even announced this that we are selling them.In fact we have never sold one to my knowledge. Someone has seen a picture of one. Like Mike said, Distributors from around the world including the UK one Moore Large want them in production. Sorry Steve, I hope we have not offended you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Someone has seen a picture of one.On your website To be fair, as Steve's said, there are only a limited number of ways of making this component... And to keep this straight, I have actually never seen one of the V-brake shod T-Pro's up close and have never seen the V-dapters used on that bike, hence why I posted in the first place: I assumed it was a new line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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