Bessell Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Haveing the frame design like that allows you to get a much stiffer frame. I like it personally.I kinda see your point but i dose look gash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I kinda see your point but i dose look gashim parshall to abit of gash though so probs why i like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I kinda see your point but i dose look gashIt's a mod frame though so no need to worry Ads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessell Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 It's a mod frame though so no need to worry Ads!ah! sweet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 it says 380, 360 would be ridiculusly short.Is there anychance you can put up reach measurements of the frames. As its a key measurement that defines how the bike feels as im sure you know.i thought the limey mod was going to have rear disk mounts? like people have said its a big thing now a days a frame having rear disk mounts that are decent and would be silly to not have one on. And i would say make sure it has 4bolt and disk not to version one or the other.Frames look sweet. Wasnt there one other frame with a crazy headtube.I did make th Mistake of writing 360 down but I have corrected it now.Sorry for this But is the reach measurement the BB to the HT? If so Waynio is on it now and he shall supply it for the Limey 1.SIX and the Limey 20".Right the Limey 20" WILL have a disc mount on the Production model, crazy head tube one will shown soon.We have built the Ice up with some Zona Zedd (curved) forks and the wheelbase came to about 1035. The Ice has had vigorous testing for about a year so I would not worry about it.The Triad was first made for us as a sample 2 years ago and Joe Seddon has been riding it for about 5 Months now, He has liked it so much he persuaded us to put it into production. Andrei also gave great reviews on it adding evidence to Joe's input. Adam, Not random holes but carefully spaced. everyone has an opinion though. Its all about showing the New steerer tube off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I did make th Mistake of writing 360 down but I have corrected it now.Sorry for this But is the reach measurement the BB to the HT? If so Waynio is on it now and he shall supply it for the Limey 1.SIX and the Limey 20".Right the Limey 20" WILL have a disc mount on the Production model, crazy head tube one will shown soon.We have built the Ice up with some Zona Zedd (curved) forks and the wheelbase came to about 1035. The Ice has had vigorous testing for about a year so I would not worry about it.The Triad was first made for us as a sample 2 years ago and Joe Seddon has been riding it for about 5 Months now, He has liked it so much he persuaded us to put it into production. Andrei also gave great reviews on it adding evidence to Joe's input. Adam, Not random holes but carefully spaced. everyone has an opinion though. Its all about showing the New steerer tube off.have you tried clamping a stem onto that steerer tube yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Andrei On his Black Ice. and his Limeyhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PpkOR01dwPcWe have clamped it with ease but it needs testing obviously. But BMX seat posts have been clamped like this for years with out any trouble, Edited March 20, 2008 by Joe@Onza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Andrei On his Black Ice. and his Limeyhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PpkOR01dwPcWe have clamped it with ease but it needs test obviously. But BMX seat post have been clamped like this for years with out any trouble,bike looks mint in black but what is with the gash music in all the vids lately seatposts don't get put through as much pressure as stems but yea hopefully testing all goes well and they work fine cause they look mint hurry up and get pics of the crazy headtube frame Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 You could make a stem that had a special groove in it to make sure it was perfectly aligned with the fork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 You could make a stem that had a special groove in it to make sure it was perfectly aligned with the fork Those options have already been considered and dismissed for the following reasons.1. We obviously want it to be universally usable with any stem. This fork has been researched pretty thoroughly and after discussions with various distributors in Taiwan we do have ambitions for it outside of Trials.2. Although the manufacturing process should be able to align the flutes identically on every fork we did not want to apply that extra pressure on the factory as yet. Don't want h/bar stems going off at 2 degrees.If in the unlikely event that we do have a problem, we have a better design solution which I won't go into on here. (unless you all promise not to tell anybody)We are a bit defensive on this as we know all our main trials rivals have extensive pictures of the fork taken on the stand in Taipei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 It would be very nice to be able to slot your stem in and it just points forwards, i can never seem to get mine straight and it always annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Those options have already been considered and dismissed for the following reasons.1. We obviously want it to be universally usable with any stem. This fork has been researched pretty thoroughly and after discussions with various distributors in Taiwan we do have ambitions for it outside of Trials.2. Although the manufacturing process should be able to align the flutes identically on every fork we did not want to apply that extra pressure on the factory as yet. Don't want h/bar stems going off at 2 degrees.If in the unlikely event that we do have a problem, we have a better design solution which I won't go into on here. (unless you all promise not to tell anybody)We are a bit defensive on this as we know all our main trials rivals have extensive pictures of the fork taken on the stand in Taipei.lmao can imagine ot pi and deng taking pics at every angle haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Not possible at this stage to answer Adams question on prices. He must probably know that spiralling costs of materials over there are making everybody nervous so we have not finalised our prices. Trying to get firm prices out of a supplier proved to be like blood out of a stone. We have just ordered almost 3000 frames, plus 1800 cromo forks and 600 alloy forks from our main supplier so we are hoping that will give him a little more muscle when negotiating costs of material. So we will have to wait a week or two. However one thing is certain, they will be great value for money. Edited March 20, 2008 by Mike Poyzer @ Onza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 It would be very nice to be able to slot your stem in and it just points forwards, i can never seem to get mine straight and it always annoys me.Personally, I prefer it to be able to move. I've fallen off before and ended up falling onto my bike at awkward angles, and instead of my bars breaking or me being impaled, my stem's moved a little bit around the steerer tube and absorbed some of the impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 The Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) The Skull.and that is deffinatley my next frame will it have a disc mountwill that headtube not just like rip off lol Edited March 20, 2008 by Alex_davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I do quite like the looks of the Limey 20" and Skull. Am i right in assuming that these frames will take the newer low-profile style bashplates that the Koxx XTP/Hydroxx and Deng 07/08 frames take? Also, is there any chance of there being a snail cam option? Just a small threaded hole in the dropouts'd do.... I know some people are against cams, but to be honest, I find them extremely simple, lightweight and less troublesome than tugs. You don't need a little spanner to adjust the tension in your wheel that way, and it's neater on the bike too. I use rounded cams, and they work perfectly fine. If you've got a problem with cams slipping, then your bike has a major problem. They work!I'm assuming that the Internal headtubes have been ditched? Are we going to be seeing all Onzas coming with standard style headsets from now on? Oh and a question for Joe or Mike, did you ditch the idea of the dropped-stayed T-Master frame? Last I heard, Slinger and Butler were complaining that the dropped stays 'got in the way'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr ailsbury Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Andrei On his Black Ice. and his Limeyhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PpkOR01dwPcWe have clamped it with ease but it needs testing obviously. But BMX seat posts have been clamped like this for years with out any trouble,Is that the 20 inch Rob Poyzer had for a while??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 1. Yes, it takes that bash plate although we are working on a new design to fit that hole pattern as well.2. You don't need tugs or snails, they have the Onza patented single rear bolt dropout.3. We have moved to conventional headsets purely by the weight aspect. That is also the reason for the super slim anti flare stainless steel top and bottom rings.4. The dropped stay is still very much in the frame. (no pun intended) We now have such a great bunch of guys riding for us and, there is a lot of brainstorming and ideas coming through so there are great plans for the future. Major distributors in the UK and now the USA will give us more muscle to push things through. We also have many smaller more specialist distributors throughout the world and there has been a big resurgence of interest in our products this year. So the drop stay personally I think will make it to production at some stage but don't ask me on what bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Is there going to be a tensile rear 116 spaced freehub? That would be mint, Cheap aswell Onza is doing well oh yea and make the rear hub loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Is that the 20 inch Rob Poyzer had for a while???No, Danny rode it in last years world Championships. Unless Rob did have for a period, I might be wrong? If rob is on here maybe he could comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Aston Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Also, is there any chance of there being a snail cam option? Just a small threaded hole in the dropouts'd do.... I know some people are against cams, but to be honest, I find them extremely simple, lightweight and less troublesome than tugs. You don't need a little spanner to adjust the tension in your wheel that way, and it's neater on the bike too. I use rounded cams, and they work perfectly fine. If you've got a problem with cams slipping, then your bike has a major problem. They work!Their is a built in tension system that looks nice and clean works great too so no need for snail cams. joeedit: beaten to it. Edited March 20, 2008 by Joe Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Is there going to be a tensile rear 116 spaced freehub? That would be mint, Cheap aswell Onza is doing well oh yea and make the rear hub loud We had a an hour long chat with our hub manufacturer and hopefully they will have a sample for us in the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 We have just ordered almost 3000 framesAnyone got a spare 100 grand?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm really confused becuase i can't tell any of the frames apart, so i might be wrong but the new 20" frame doesn't have disc mount. Why would you not put one on when so many people are running double disc these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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