Glass Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Just curious to know what the weight of currently available 19" tyres are. Been looking around the net and only found that info on Maxxis Creepy Crawlers: Website says 975g but webcyclery says 1050gCan anyone help me out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Just curious to know what the weight of currently available 19" tyres are. Been looking around the net and only found that info on Maxxis Creepy Crawlers: Website says 975g but webcyclery says 1050gCan anyone help me out?haha, does it really matter?Its like... 75g diffrence... You wouldnt even notice that if it was hanging off of your bellend... lolDont say your a weight freak are you? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 haha, does it really matter?Its like... 75g diffrence... You wouldnt even notice that if it was hanging off of your bellend... lolDont say your a weight freak are you? lolits not the 75g that worry me bud it the total weight of the tyre. I posted this topic cause I want to compare 19" tyre weights to 26" and 24". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 lol fair nuff!Abit weird do.. why would you want to campair a 19" tyre to a 24-26" ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robonatomz Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 dude just get i tyre, as if the difference in weight of a tyre will make any difference!rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 (edited) dude just get i tyre, as if the difference in weight of a tyre will make any difference!robOk then maybe I need to explain before anyone is willing to share their precious info (mod tyre weights) I'm a tech geek which means I love to think about how different variables effect bikes eg geometry, wide rims vs narrow rim, round profile vs square profile tyre, etc. I like to compare parts, compare weights, rubber durometers, yada yada. For example: 26" rims weigh more than 20" rims because there is more metal on them...duh right? (assuming same width and brand and model)eg: Alex DX32 rim 26"-765g 24"-650g 20"-540g 19"-510g The same should be true for tyres, right? The average rear 26" 2.5 tyre used by trials riders weighs what? About 1000g-1300g.How much does the average mod rear tyre weigh? (That's my question to you)The only figure I have is for the Maxxis Creepy Crawler which is 975-1050g. So that seems to mean that mod and 26" tyres weigh just about the same even though they're way different in size! Lets look at it in another way:A Kenda Nevegal wire bead double ply (downhill version) Stick E 26x2.5 tyre weighs ~1350g the 24" version weighs 1150g (i have one). Thats -200g off the 26" version. Or to put it another way the 24" tyre weighs 14.8% less than the 26" tyre.So if we use this to calculate what a theoretical 19"x2.5 Nevagal tyre would weigh we get~773g (using the 14.8% decrease for every 2" decrease in diameter )650g (assuming a 200g decrease for every 2" decrease in diameter)Ok so 650-773g is what it should weigh and the maxxis tyre weighs ~1000g. Still ~230-350g difference there.Well mod tyres are TALLER than 26" tyres so ok they should weigh more than you'd first expect. Fair enough so perhaps 750-873g would be a better figure but that's still 100-300g less than than the Maxxis tyre!!! Lets use the Maxxis Highroller instead:Highroller 26x2.5 wire double ply 60a durometer=1250g (according to website)Highroller 24x2.5 wire double ply 60a durometer=1150g (according to website and comfirmed by my scales)Here the difference is only 100g, half of the Kenda. Again if we use this to calculate what a 19"x2.5 theoretical Highroller would weigh we get:934g (using %)550g (using grams) Ok so here the figures approach the Maxxis CC weight of 975-1050g. And let us not forget the tyre height thing so weights would be 650-1000g. Better right?But I'm talking about heavy DH tyres and not tyres like the Michelin Hot S 2.5 which weighs 850g!!! If they made a mod version it'd be way lighter maybe as low as 500g!!! The Maxxis CC is a lightish mod tyre isn't it? I've weighed a low end Monty Mod tyre from the mid 90s and it weighed 1300g!!!And why is this so? Because mod tyres have super beefy sidewalls!!! Why don't they make 500-800g mod tyres?-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Now the above is merely an idea of mine that I'd like to confirm. To do that I need to know more mod tyre weights. The tryall tyres especially because those are the only ones which are identical in both 26", 20" and 19".Everyone satisfied now? Can anyone help me out?"Question authority. Think for yourself. Free your mind." Edited December 31, 2006 by Glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robonatomz Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 wow, you realy do have too much time on your hands!think of i this way, if you have 2 maxxis creepy's 19" in your hand then the weight of one is roughly half that!this is assuming that both tyres have the same amount of wear and that there is room for 2 of them in your hand next to your calculator and pair of scales! rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 your bikes got to be light otherwise you just dont look cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Posted December 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Thank god for http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/Mod tyre weightsRear -Tryall 19x2.5 1113g-Monty Eagle Claw 19x2.6 (66mm) ~1100g-Maxxis CC 19x2.5 (63.5mm) 1042g-Echo 1143gFront -Echo 735g-Maxxis CC 688g-Tryall 561gBMX -Maxxis Holy Roller 2.2 575g (wire) 510g 1.95-Maxxis Maxx Daddy (wire) 2.0 540g 1.85 480g (i used to run this on my mod its actually closer to 2.0 whereas the 2.0 is closer to 2.2)-Tioga Comp X Pro 470g 2.1 (with slow rebound rubber)-Tioga Factory MX 2.1 530g-Tioga Comp 3 2.125 460g (now with slow rebound rubber)26" Front400-1000g depending on sizeRearMaxxis Minion 2.5" = 1248g dual plyHutchinson 26x2.5= 1350g (all their downhill tyres)So yeah the currently available mod tyres are stupidly heavy relative to their size and that includes front 20" tyres as well. You can however run a light bmx tyre instead (though they tend to have harder durometers and thus less grip).My rear 2.5 Kenda tyre, which I find too heavy for natural, is on par with most mod rear tyres and its 24"!!!My 600g Specialized 2.5 (my natural tyre) in comparison is on par with mod front tyres!!! (its shit for street cause it pinchflat's so easily)And yet another imperfection in the system is established...kind of like street BMXer running tyres at 100psi so they don't pinchflat instead of just beefing up their sidewalls...i.e. learning something from the MTB DH crowd.What tyres do you 26" guys n gals (if any are present) use? Are you all on those super heavy ~1300g 26x2.5 double ply tyres or are some of you running sub 1000g tyres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robonatomz Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 wow i gotta getmaxxis then i will beable to hop much higher! lolfor 26" i use kenda kinetics 2.35 single ply stickie thingy on the front, sorry dont know how much it weighs but it grips good and is nice ans sqishie!and on the rear either kenda blue groove or neveagal 2.5 stickie duel ply, agian, very grippy and is very pinch resistant! i have used single ply tyres on the rear before and they just pinch flat, i tryed them because i thought the bounce from them would be better, never even thought of the weight.at the end of the day if you wanna worrie about a few grams of weight in your tyres well then thats up to you, so long as they grip well and dont pinch flat i aint all that worried about the weight of them.say for example in a comp, it gets very muddy some time's you could pick up more weight in mud than you save worrying about a few grams here and there,rob, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_skj0lsvik_ Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Me, myself are going to get a schwalbe 2.4 big betty tire soonish.. Mostly because of it's weight, at ca 800g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robonatomz Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 i was thinking of getting a card bord frame, only weighs about 35 gram's, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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