Regarding Cls And Neil Tunnicliffe

[Revell-Bikes]

Guys,

I've always wanted to say this on the forum...why dont Craig lee Scott and Neil Tunnicliffe compete??

their immense skills they've showed on their ZOO vids makes the spainsh riders wet themselves....

they're sponsored, so they need to go out there to show what brit riders are like! also definely will help the british team as well.

to me, the way they are, just hopping abt in the streets and making good and sick vids of trials, they do need to show their talent at comps sometime, craig and neil, you two will give other pros a run for their money!!

right ive said it now.

Pat

[JT!]

What type of comps are you talking about?

CLS has taken part in NASS and stuff like that, won it i think

But competition riding is very different to street riding, if your talking about comps where we see benito ross and riders like that, on rocks and such, people who ride street like CLS wouldn't stand a chance against some comp riders.

[TheMunn]

Maybe they don't want to?

[Ash-Kennard]

natural isn't that hard, its just how you ride, if he can ride along handrails on his back wheel he will do well in a comp.

ok, they may be strickly street riders, but it is good to vary their skills in other regions such as tarty, technical hops to wet moss covered logs and rocks

good topic patt

[Deonn h]

Guys,

I've always wanted to say this on the forum...why dont Craig lee Scott and Neil Tunnicliffe compete??

their immense skills they've showed on their ZOO vids makes the spainsh riders wet themselves....

they're sponsored, so they need to go out there to show what brit riders are like! also definely will help the british team as well.

to me, the way they are, just hopping abt in the streets and making good and sick vids of trials, they do need to show their talent at comps sometime, craig and neil, you two will give other pros a run for their money!!

right ive said it now.

Pat

Why? should they have to ride comps.It`s like telling a pure comp rider that he has to do an 11ft dropgap to a rail?

And yep as jt said cls has done nass.

[Ashley Smith]

craig used to compete a lot at natural events!

ash

[Revell-Bikes]

hmm varied responses....

yes but theyre stupidly good why dont they get in the UK team and compete at the worlds?? never heard anyone who becomes highly skilled and dont want to do world champs etc? if i was i would so i can see where i am at world level. (actually i'd be 2,499th!) lol

aslo they would push the biketrial limits at comps (upping the ante)

Pat

[Houseface]

they might not want to compete in comps, they might just want to ride for the fun of it?

steve.

[Rossi]

I think they both ride biketrials for the fun factor (doesn't totally sum up why they dont do comps). Personally, I don't wanna have to queue to ride a section, or pay to ride a comp, or have my bike set up in a certain way. I hate taking it seriously too, afterall its only a hobby (for me anyways), everyones different... Ive see people at comps get upset/mad cos they dont score as well as they wanted to, well thats fair doo's. How many street comps are there compared to normal ones... natty isn't everyones cuppa tea. There's too many rules and I dont find them fun, a lot of riders are completely the opposite.

[Walleee]

natural isn't that hard, its just how you ride, if he can ride along handrails on his back wheel he will do well in a comp.

ok, they may be strickly street riders, but it is good to vary their skills in other regions such as tarty, technical hops to wet moss covered logs and rocks

good topic patt

Is that true really?

When in a comp will riding along a flat, thin edge be of use? Maybe once in an entire goup of sections, and even then, they will be manmade, you just don't et rock's shaped as 'squarley' as rails.

while I admit he may do well when it come's to sidehopp up a huge rock with a fairly flat top they will do it with ease where other's might struggle, but when it come's to technical stuff on small, wet, pointy rocks, I think it would be a differant matter.

[CBProductions]

Maybe because its their life and they choose what they want to do and what not to do prehaps ? Yes it's good to have riders representing but sometimes people are different under certain pressures of life such as competition. I find I ride better on my own and with my freewill to allow me t o do what I want.

[Neil Tunnicliffe]

Guys,

I've always wanted to say this on the forum...why dont Craig lee Scott and Neil Tunnicliffe compete??

their immense skills they've showed on their ZOO vids makes the spainsh riders wet themselves....

they're sponsored, so they need to go out there to show what brit riders are like! also definely will help the british team as well.

to me, the way they are, just hopping abt in the streets and making good and sick vids of trials, they do need to show their talent at comps sometime, craig and neil, you two will give other pros a run for their money!!

right ive said it now.

Pat

Good point! I really enjoy riding natural and it deffinatly improves trials all round. Last year I took part in the UCI competition at London and it was really fun.

Last year I was going to do a full round of competitions but then I broke my ankle and had to be extremely careful where I jumped back when not making a object. So just stuck to flat safe objects.

But in 2007 I'm gettin a reliable car so I can travel almost anywhere! So yeah 2007 I shell be competing.

Hope this helps.

Take care.

Neil T.

[Walleee]

Good point! I really enjoy riding natural and it deffinatly improves trials all round. Last year I took part in the UCI competition at London and it was really fun.

Last year I was going to do a full round of competitions but then I broke my ankle and had to be extremely careful where I jumped back when not making a object. So just stuck to flat safe objects.

But in 2007 I'm gettin a reliable car so I can travel almost anywhere! So yeah 2007 I shell be competing.

Hope this helps.

Take care.

Neil T.

Excellent, I for one am glad to hear it, if only just to see how you street beasts get on with the rock's.....

[cleanbikes]

Craig rode the World Championships (Results here) and the British Championships (Results here) in 2003.

[TomN]

I also remember CLS having brouht out a video of him doing a bit of thee o'natural. Where the rocks was wet and he had creepys on

[Ash-Kennard]

zoo 25

[PaRtZ]

zoo 25

my favourite vid

[Ben_OCP]

Well..comps are a different thing really.

It doesn't matter if you can sidehop higher or gap further than your opponents. It all comes down to how well you can handle the pressure of having a time limit, rules and all that stuff in order to complete a section...

Some riders prefer not to have anything to do with it and thats cool too. They are doing their own thing and they're pushing trials to a different level.

Edited December 27, 2006 by Ben_OCP

[Greetings]

Why? should they have to ride comps.It`s like telling a pure comp rider that he has to do an 11ft dropgap to a rail?

That pretty much sums this topic up for me.

I don't think TRA takes part in competitions either, nor does Marco G.?

Now that's quite something, a rider sponsored by Koxx that doesn't do comps

[aaroncosbey]

dont like to point out the obvious - but what if they didnt do well?

It would really curb their enthusiasm if they got a shit result

Comps are a world apart from street - and being able to make decent videos.

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Personally - i think a lack of desire to ride in competitions for guys that are good at a specific area of the sport is to do with them already being overly satisfied - "knowing they are the best at what they do".

And not needing to prove themselves anymore than what they have to.

Also - its easy not to bother when you know you have no chance at coming close to savage/hyland/slinger/walker etc......

I'm not supprised if being shit scared of a bad result puts them off competiting altogether.

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[Waynio]

natural and street are totally different, if anything like alot of people have said, natural is much harder to adapt to than street. streets easy and everyone can do it, and thats a simple rule of thumb, ash-kennard i really dont believe you could say that street and natural are the same.............

each to their own if they dont want to compete as others have said they dont have to. i dont compete "to win" i compete as i find it a good place to commmunicate with others, like CLS and Tunni do at street rides i find it the same at comps.

aaron i think your post sums it up and is crack on

Waynio.........................

[omgnoseat]

I don't think TRA takes part in competitions either

yea that suprised me aswell, mayb it's the same as with tunni, he was planning to compete but his broken wrist kept him from this

nor does Marco G.?

marco grosenik does compete

hes at #25 at the uci 20'' ranking

http://www.rick-koekoek.nl/UCI%2020%20Rank...02006-09-25.pdf

[Ash-Kennard]

natural and street are totally different, if anything like alot of people have said, natural is much harder to adapt to than street. streets easy and everyone can do it, and thats a simple rule of thumb, ash-kennard i really dont believe you could say that street and natural are the same.............

it isnt that hard, you just have to learn and adapt yourself to the surrounding environment, if its slippy, preoare to spring higher, if its thin take your time. i never said they were the same, i was trying to get at that it doesnt matter what you ride you can mix between the two. i certainly try to

[Damon W]

reasons they may not compete:

Cls has quit

Tunni is lazy and dunt hav a car (i think)

they maybe prefere street

and i personally think they wud both feal the pressure alot, because they both have alot of pride in riding, so if they didnt do well it would get them down

^my thoughts^

[Revell-Bikes]

Neil,

good to hear youre planning to compete in 2007!

right guys, those who know the czech BIU world round, its man made and they could blow the comp away by using their street skills or the UCI comp slinger ruled last year.

judging their movements- they should be strong at UCI. as ive rarely seen them going to bashguard.

about the UCI comps theres mainly man made stuff- columns, sleepers etc. as u all know in one of the ZOO vids, neil pulls front to back taps on postboxes, how many of you see that everyday in which hes doing it for his leisure??

wish someone could nudge the spainsh elites to up the ante by making a simliar vid that CLS and NT usually produce. i'd like them to top that.

who said CLS' lazy?? hes a uni student! im also an uni student, i happen to quit trials earlier this year because of uni work and time management..... but im still checking up the trials community like this forum.

Pat