PaRtZ Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 this one http://www.trashzen.com/anclimbing1h.htmlI just cant get any higher than about knee height. I saw dave marshall do something like 3 foot at exeter and just couldn't get my head round how he did it any tips? particularly starting off would be really helpfulthankies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 (edited) Anyone who has ridden with me will notice I do everything half pedal, it's all about massive surges of energy and other than that it's just like a normal backwheel.Just thought of how I do it, if you start with your opposite foot slightly above horizontal so you get a bit more of a kick in, you use the first quater turn to lift the front wheel and bring your back wheel to the edge of a gap or ready to take off then with the second quarter you put your surge in.It's all about timing. Edited December 16, 2006 by Matt_Tupman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 (edited) Had huge problems with this move. It's much easier if you do a half stroke touchhop. This not only gives you more boost but doesn't require you to put a lot of power into rotating the cranks. It's dead easy on a light gear ratio and on a stock but you have neither My advice is to start from doing it at an angle and execute a small touchhop - lay your front wheel on the edge, push the bike down and pull up. Don't use your cranks as a source of power for the move if you get me. Body movement is key edit: having wrote this I guess you're more interested in getting up 35-40" rather than that huge surge on the vid. That's completely different. Edited December 16, 2006 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted December 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 na theres a wall outside my house which has about 5ft of pavement and then a wall (with a ledge on the other side so i cant fall off). Im start right at the edge of the pavement so my wheel is almost hanging in the road, then doing a half pedal surge and powering up the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 is this what I helped you with in exeter? getting up that cable reel at the start of the section?You look to be doing ok, but I feel you should be using your body more, really give it some! throw your body and the bike will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 i do pretty much everything with half pedals, i think a hard gear helps as you can get a bit of momentum with the first 1/4 then really kick hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Wheneve I do these, I get my front wheel right close to the edge of the 'object', tuck the bars at my chest, then as I kick, I start to tuck.I think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Used to be able to do those for fun when I rode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) i just dont use the front brake, i only cover the back but if your even "touching" the lever to pull it back it will slow you down, i learnt from akkers, keep off the brakes until its fully necessary that you need to use them.its purely, pull the crank back as much as poss in the short space you have and really lean back into it then full on pedal forward,totally commit to it, if you only "half" go at it, youve got more chance of crashing or not making it. me n ali c was doing one in keighley under the loading bay a week or two ago. probably about 3ft maybe a tad bigger.Waynio......................EDIT: i do like a "tyre tap" to do it, if your doing half pedal like "jump" to back wheel then im not 100% sure, how id do it, il have to go out and learn that one. Edited December 17, 2006 by Waynio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I just cant get any higher than about knee height. I saw dave marshall do something like 3 foot at exeter and just couldn't get my head round how he did it any tips? particularly starting off would be really helpfulNot 100% what you mean... whereabouts was I doing it? I think one of the important things with short run up moves is getting the timing right so you get the power from your good foot exactly when you need it to make the up. Also with short run up stuff, body movement becomes more important. Because you don't have the momentum from a roll in you tend to have to actually muscle the bike a bit more to get it where you want it. Not sure if that's helped much but ah well!!Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I find that if you compress your body down, then pedal really hard whilst moving your body forward and jumping up, helps with this movement... its all about how high your jumping your body... the bike will always follow it... unless you fall off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 ^^ ^^ ^^ thats how TRA taught me all of 3 years ago. what a legend. "jump" with the bike. and it will follow you were part of his wording to me.Waynio........................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 ^^ ^^ ^^ thats how TRA taught me all of 3 years ago. what a legend. "jump" with the bike. and it will follow you were part of his wording to me.Waynio...........................hehe, cool, i think like TRA!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 haha, Tra snaps chains doing that. just start doing it by rolling in first it should help you get the power down easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 haha, Tra snaps chains doing that. just start doing it by rolling in first it should help you get the power down easierthe whole point is that u dont roll in gav - hence short run up. in a comp situation if u need the ol surge its a good technique to have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) yeah, but if you start off rolling the half surge will be easier so you'll learn the technique faster- then you just need to do it from static, sort of like gradual build up training, break the move down into peices learn each seperate one, then slowly build it up until you've got the move spot on, for comps and tight run ups like you said. Edited December 22, 2006 by Gavyn L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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