Osram Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hey all i was at work today (halfords) and saw the new saracen 07 catalouge and they have made 4 new trials bikes called the flea 1 , 2,3 and 4 and to my suprise there was a 24 inch one similar to the zoot what do you guys think ?? personally i think its a good bike for a beginner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I saw that about 1 week ago too, They look half decent. pretty good spec too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Was looking at our catalogue of these at work.They look alright.Don't understand why they've put SRAM X-9s on them..when we're just gunna twat them on rocks.High-end one has a rear HS33, and fron Avid Juicy Seven. - Not bad. Also got that 24" one. Guessing it's the same idea as the Zoot. - Not a streety 24". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Anyone else notice that in the picture the 24" forks' mounts are in the wrong place?God I'm sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Anyone else notice that in the picture the 24" forks' mounts are in the wrong place?God I'm sad... I noticed that at work actually. :$ If you look closely, the slave is sat right up at the top, so if you moved the moutns down, might line up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Anyone else notice that in the picture the 24" forks' mounts are in the wrong place?God I'm sad...THATS CLASS! New way of braking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I welcome anything that encourages / welcomes new people to participate in our sport . :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 they've put shit hubs on them though why could they make them all singlespeed and put acs claws on them? would kick the shite out of the 8speed freewheels there running(which skip when your just pedal around normally)? gah it's stupid (and put me off saracen again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Forget the trials bikes, saracen have no place in trials even at those prices. But all you halfords lads, have you seen their 07 xc line up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasil Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I don't know I do not like it so much.Maybe those loads of cogs at rear wheel....this is not XC bike it's trials bike why they put stuff like that on it????And I'm not very amazed by the drop outs...I still like much better a leeson or curtis 24"...maybe this one with some nice wheels and ss will look great... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtrials Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 ah it ok i guess and cheap i bet, so it will be good to start on upgrade some parts then move on to a decent frame, everyone's a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) Look interesting, is there a link to models/ specs/ prices?Edit; Aha... http://www.saracencycles.com/index.php?opt...&Itemid=255 Edited December 6, 2006 by adamtrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Personally Id rather have a Phase as a learner bike - seem better suited to it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Forget the trials bikes, saracen have no place in trials even at those prices. Umm, how the f**k can you say that? Saracen are trying to put out a bike that can be used by a first time rider. If I was new to trials I would go for something like that to start on. Plus having some gears on it would mean that I could ride to my mates house without having to worry.I for one applaud Saracen for what they have done for trials. They and Onza have mass produced good starter bikes for a range of people.Why cant someone buy that bike and as they get better upgrade parts? There is no reason.Ok I admit some parts could've been better thought out. But saracen are a bike company, they dont specialise in one area, they do everything from road to dh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 even if they don't specialise they should try to research the market better it's common sence realy! I'll agree that some aspects are good, they give good bar/stem, crank seups but they f**k up the hubs which are prety important (in my opinion) even if your a n00b at riding you still want to be able to trust your rear hub knowing it won't skip even if your just hopping around on curbs a nasty skip can f**king hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomer Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 i would be more than happy if i started on one of them, its just eventuly you end up replacing every part on a saracen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_boy_rider Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 I think these look great ! i've got a 2005/2006 team version for the last 8 months or so and its been great - but it really looks like they are one of the few big companies taking trials seriously. Time to upgrade i think..... Flea 4 for me please or should i go 24" ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtrials Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 they dont look to bad and this is well worth the money looks quite funMy Webpage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 personally i think its a good bike for a beginner at £650?thats a very committed beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTF Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 (edited) they dont look to bad and this is well worth the money looks quite funMy Webpage Looks fun to ride (the flea 1) Edited December 8, 2006 by GTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 I think they would look alot better with different cranks,and a new cassette then they would look good but i think it is let down, By them things.Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 At the end of the day these are budget bikes, made by someone who wants to sell them to the masses. Bearing in mind these bikes arn't exactly top end, whilst equally no tbeing crap. These are aimed at people first starting trials up, even the £650 one. Not many people who already have a trials bike are going to move on to a full build saracen.So when you imagine joe average, with mummy and daddy looking for a trials bike for chirstmas they don't know everything about bikes. They know the simple details, and will only ask simple questions. They know what gears are, and the steritypical question is "How many gears has it got?". Hence the reason for the grears being there, of course they do serve other purposes other than a selling point to joe average. Now people will say, why couldn't they spec a higher spec hub, cranks, cassete, chain. At the end of the day yes you could put a better spec hub on there, but to be honest everyone seems to have problems with hubs until you start using hope/chris king hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgun_Donor Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 The Flea 1 and 2 dont look all that bad, specially as starter bikes. But the Flea 4.... In all honesty you can get the holroyd for £750 and a spare rear wheel for the price of the flea... and it has from what i can guess a better built frame and specs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 sorry about the massive bump.but my future housemate at uni is going to get a trials bike (thanks to me )thinking about to get the Flea 1 for him, simple and i can get it cheap for him...just looked for most relevant places and there don't seem to have the geo for the bike (just shows how good saracen 'cares' about trials if they don't notice the geo is the key to how the bike rides)wondering if anyone could help me on that one? just wheelbase and chainstay length would be great. thanks for the help!steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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