Spray

[1337 Trials]

Hiho people. Ive come to final decision to spray my frame black.

Im just checking that I buy the correct stuff when I go to homebase tomoro night to buy the stuff.

1. primer (Grey) 1Can. Spray 2 layers.

2. Propper spray paint (Black) 2 cans Spray 3-5 layers

3. Laquer??? 1 can. Spray 2-3 layers.

~Matty

Edited November 28, 2006 by Matt-y

[basher]

yeah thats sounds about right may be another layer of laquer or 2, just to make it less easier to scatch ect.

[1337 Trials]

yeah thats sounds about right may be another layer of laquer or 2, just to make it less easier to scatch ect.

Ok. Thanks my fellow "trials dude"

~Matty

[pike64421]

Good Good matey nice to hear people these days having the time to spray there bikes.

I don’t what to hear of people doing the same mistake as I did on my motor bike where is spent about 10 hours filling and sanding my panels then came around to paint there and the paint just pealed off due to me not wiping the panels down with paint thinners to remove all the grease and dirt.

After about a hour chatting to a professional car sprayer he informed me of orange peal and how it effects the finish to the paint.

The way he said to Eliminate the orange peal was to sand after every coat and on the final gloss coats was to colour sand (apply water when sanding).

For those that has never heard of colour sanding

Colour sanding is done for several reasons, and if done correctly, it can yield outstanding final results. The colour-sanding process smoothes out the minute waviness in the paint (known as orange peel) and removes minor imperfections in the paint and the clear coat (such as tiny particles of dust stuck in the clear coat). But the amount of sanding needed for colour sanding is far less than for sanding body filler or primer. Colour sanding requires the use of special, very fine, high-grit sandpaper that removes very small amounts of the surface material. Traditional body-sanding paper is in the 40- to 80-grit range, whereas colour-sanding paper is in the 1,200- to 2,000-grit range.

If you are still not sure about colour sanding here is a website that runs you thought the basic

colour sanding

This is the order that i spayed my bike.

1. Primer (Grey) 1Can. Spray 2 layers.

2. Light sand with 1500 grit sand paper (wet&dry) between both coats

3. Spray paint (Black) 2 cans spray 3-5 layers.

4. Starts wet sanding it is best to take your time with this making sure that it is smooth

5. Lacquer 4-6 layers. Apply each layer of lacquer while they are still tacky (every 15 minutes there about)

You will know when you get it right because when the lacquer has completely cured (dried for a few days and hardened) it should be smooth and shiny.

When I had completed my bike I looked back on how many hours I spent doing it all and it came to in the region of 60 hours

i hope i have help you to get a perfect finish you want

Cheers

pike64421 (jayson)

Edited November 29, 2006 by pike64421

[robster]

Hiho people. Ive come to final decision to spray my frame black.

Im just checking that I buy the correct stuff when I go to homebase tomoro night to buy the stuff.

1. primer (Grey) 1Can. Spray 2 layers.

2. Propper spray paint (Black) 2 cans Spray 3-5 layers

3. Laquer??? 1 can. Spray 2-3 layers.

~Matty

I would get it powder coated pal. It is a lot more hard wareing, you will get a better finnish as well.

[sir trial a lot]

Good Good matey nice to hear people these days having the time to spray there bikes.

I don’t what to hear of people doing the same mistake as I did on my motor bike where is spent about 10 hours filling and sanding my panels then came around to paint there and the paint just pealed off due to me not wiping the panels down with paint thinners to remove all the grease and dirt.

After about a hour chatting to a professional car sprayer he informed me of orange peal and how it effects the finish to the paint.

The way he said to Eliminate the orange peal was to sand after every coat and on the final gloss coats was to colour sand (apply water when sanding).

For those that has never heard of colour sanding

Colour sanding is done for several reasons, and if done correctly, it can yield outstanding final results. The colour-sanding process smoothes out the minute waviness in the paint (known as orange peel) and removes minor imperfections in the paint and the clear coat (such as tiny particles of dust stuck in the clear coat). But the amount of sanding needed for colour sanding is far less than for sanding body filler or primer. Colour sanding requires the use of special, very fine, high-grit sandpaper that removes very small amounts of the surface material. Traditional body-sanding paper is in the 40- to 80-grit range, whereas colour-sanding paper is in the 1,200- to 2,000-grit range.

If you are still not sure about colour sanding here is a website that runs you thought the basic

colour sanding

This is the order that i spayed my bike.

1. Primer (Grey) 1Can. Spray 2 layers.

2. Light sand with 1500 grit sand paper (wet&dry) between both coats

3. Spray paint (Black) 2 cans spray 3-5 layers.

4. Starts wet sanding it is best to take your time with this making sure that it is smooth

5. Lacquer 4-6 layers. Apply each layer of lacquer while they are still tacky (every 15 minutes there about)

You will know when you get it right because when the lacquer has completely cured (dried for a few days and hardened) it should be smooth and shiny.

When I had completed my bike I looked back on how many hours I spent doing it all and it came to in the region of 60 hours

i hope i have help you to get a perfect finish you want

Cheers

pike64421 (jayson)

Validate!!!! I beleive this guy knows what hes doing and took the time to write that!!

[1337 Trials]

I would get it powder coated pal. It is a lot more hard wareing, you will get a better finnish as well.

Ok.How do I do this???

I confused on what idea to use,lol.

Ps. The best way to get a shiny black frame

|Matty

[1337 Trials]

Come on people Sorry to be rude but im meant to getting the paint tonight from homebase after school

|Matty

[poopipe]

Come on people Sorry to be rude but im meant to getting the paint tonight from homebase after school

|Matty

you cant do powder coating at home (unless you've got loads of equipment for powdercoating in your shed)- you'll have to pay someone to do it for you. Can't remember the average sort of cost but it's not cheap - ask google or yell (or something) for local places that do it.

If you're planning on keeping the frame the same colour for the next year or two it's worth the powder coat - otherwise you might as well just use spray paint and touch it up when you get upset with the scratches. A decent spray job will last pretty well and while powdercoat is a lot more resilient it still chips off when you smack the bike on stuff.

[Conor the basher.]

hi there if i was you i would just do it the simple way the way you wanted to do it in the first place powder coating is very good but you cant really do it at home unless you have all the equipment. well any ways all you need to do is get some nitromors/turps and paint strip the original paint what is on the frame, any scratches on the frame just give a little rub with some sand paper, get some primer you ddon't have to use grey you can use loads of diffrent colours but grey is a good choice for black paint if you just want you bike to come out shiny just get normal mat black paint and spray it with lacker but if you want a nice glittery/metallic effect (looks amazing) get some metallic paint (his can cost more but its worth it )

step 1: paint strip the frame using nitromors or turps

step 2: take some sand paper and sand the rough bits down

step 3: spray the primer on 1-2 layers as it is only the base coat

step 4: spray the paint on making sure the spray can is not to close to the frame 3-4

step 5: spray the Laquer on i would say 2-3 times but its up to you

and that the way i do it i have recent seen and done this on two friends frame sand it has come out nice

thanks hope i have helped (con)

[pike64421]

hello,

Powder coating is not that hard to do and you can buy the equipment quite easy for about £150

Powder is an excellent way for a perfect finish as well as being as solid as a rock. the method of powder coating is to give the frame a light sand to roughen up the surface then you have to negatively charge the frame (wires comes with the kit) and the plastic partials need's to be positive charged so it will stick to the frame the way the particle get passivity charged is all thought the gun. Then all is left is to place the frame in big oven and cook on gas mark 6 for about 6 hours.

But then again how many of you have an oven so big you can fit your bike frame in there. When there is a will there is a way if any of you still go to school of college you will have a pottery kiln just ask the head master really nice and he might say yes

all the best

pike64421 (jayson)

[1337 Trials]

hi there if i was you i would just do it the simple way the way you wanted to do it in the first place powder coating is very good but you cant really do it at home unless you have all the equipment. well any ways all you need to do is get some nitromors/turps and paint strip the original paint what is on the frame, any scratches on the frame just give a little rub with some sand paper, get some primer you ddon't have to use grey you can use loads of diffrent colours but grey is a good choice for black paint if you just want you bike to come out shiny just get normal mat black paint and spray it with lacker but if you want a nice glittery/metallic effect (looks amazing) get some metallic paint (his can cost more but its worth it )

step 1: paint strip the frame using nitromors or turps

step 2: take some sand paper and sand the rough bits down

step 3: spray the primer on 1-2 layers as it is only the base coat

step 4: spray the paint on making sure the spray can is not to close to the frame 3-4

step 5: spray the Laquer on i would say 2-3 times but its up to you

and that the way i do it i have recent seen and done this on two friends frame sand it has come out nice

thanks hope i have helped (con)

I never heard about the strip frame using nitromors or turps. Do you have to do this??? My mates say just sand down and the further tips you have given me after "1". Yes you have helped, thanks mate

~Matty

[Conor the basher.]

um well i would say yer strip it down with nitromors or turps but its lethal stuff so be carfull it will make it look better in the end and then if you do scratch it you dont have the original colour showing unless its silver i wouldent bother striping it

hope ivehelped again lol (con)

[1337 Trials]

How much is all this likely to cost???

~Matty