Ducko Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 I want to punch you.no neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!agree that is really rediculous! get em' ali lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 I want to punch you.no neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!agree that is really rediculous! get em' ali lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgun_Donor Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Does anyone think this would work?[attachmentid=8301]Might try a proper build if the feedback is good Trust me cats dont always land on their feet especially after they hit a wall.Damn viscious cats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robster Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 put a joking smiley next time so idiots like me understand :$and me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy d Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) I think I had some valid points to raise in view of this complicated debate about trials, but the topic is so long that I have entirely forgotten what I wanted to say. And half an hour of my life just vanished...umm...I've read a few posts saying how its such a shame that the old skool stuff is dying out or whatever... no it isn't! Just find the right people to ride with!I've read a few posts saying how bad TF is for all the arguments, and for how people get too lost in the politics rather than just riding... no it isn't! It's an amazing resource for meeting up with people, sharing videos, getting bike advice and more, whatever your style of riding/philosophy of trials. You can quite easily read just the bits you're after. (Not sure how I ended up spending my evening on this topic.)In fact, just the existence of bikes in all their forms and the abilty of humans to ride them so well is quite amazing. Just enjoy it. I think that was something like what I was going to say?EDIT: Just to emphasise how ridiculously long and complicated this topic is (or how dozy I am), I spent nearly the whole time thinking that Danny Holroyd was Chris Akrigg... (I think they're both brilliant) Edited November 21, 2006 by Tommy d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 ...Martin may feel that riding demo's brings him more revenue and gets trials seen more, but on the flip side, the whole damn universe can get into bike trials before the suits in government or any other position of authority start to take any notice, which is where consistant, well organised comps, with regular attendance and firm organisation comes into play. As comps and the organisations that run them begin to flourish, so will the money that people are ready to put into it. Why do you think mototrials is such a bigger sport? Because almost EVERY mototrials rider rides comps. To be fair, comparing the raison d'etre for mototrials and biketrials isn't quite the same. The whole thing with biketrials is what I mentioned before - accessibility. I can jump on my bike and rinse down to any number of streetspots within 15minutes of my house and probably ride for quite a while on each. If I had a mototrials bike, to go for a ride I'd have to travel a fair distance to get to an official practise area. They're totally different, and comparing the size of mototrials to biketrials and putting it down to the fact that all mototrials riders ride comps isn't exactly useful in any way? You could choose any arbitary fact about mototrials and use that to explain why it's bigger than biketrials and it'd have the same meaning. Also, if more and more people are riding trials, and therefore street spots get blown up more, then surely having "trials parks" instead of better organised comps at the same old venues would be better? Comps are still relatively few and far between, and they only cover a certain season during the year, so that's still about 30 weeks at least of the year that people don't have "well organised comps" to ride in. At any rate, BMX is still huge, and people still ride that and get the same hassle that trials has at this level, so I don't really see trial booming again as being that bad? People are saying "They'll make laws against it", but they already have? Whenever you go out on your bike riding street (and natural in many places) you're knowingly breaking the law, so what does it matter if they start putting "no trick riding" signs up on places? It's the same as it is now.About the "old school was better, we all just rode for fun" thing - I remember it as being almost exactly the same? It was still about learning stuff then doing it bigger. I can remember a video coming out from ages ago of DJ upping to bash a 4ft high stack of pallets and everyone was mad pleased about it, as was he, because it was so big at the time. It really wasn't much different to what it's like today, it just seems people put the rose-tinted glasses on and just forget that it had the same short-comings as it does today, it's just that today the choice of frame is between a Control or a Pitbull or whatever instead of "Should I get a Pashley 26Mhz or Orange Zero?". We've just got more bits to choose from now, and that's about it. For the most part, people are doing the same tricks now that they were back in the day. I went on my first ever group ride in September 2001 and I went on my latest group ride last weekend, and apart from the size of the tricks, most of them were the same moves just in different places. It's not as different as people think. If it's "not as fun", maybe it's people's attitude that have changed as opposed to the sport, which is relatively unchanged from back when the older-school members on the forum started riding? As time passes you get more responsibilites, longer hours, more cynicism, get irritated by new riders asking the same questions over and over that you once asked (judging from people's threads on here complaining about it...), and so on - people just grow up and your outlook changes. Perhaps a lot of the older members are also looking back at trials but also looking back at it as representing the time when they were younger and living was easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 crikey loving the s.a's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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