Egg Fried Rice Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 hey guysive decided with my new rim im going to keep it smooth.ive heard good things about smooth rims so i've decided to give it a try.one of the reasons ive decided to do this is because my rim will last longer.im am going to run CNC reds (advised by kyle from heatsink) and maybe a bit of tar.has anyone used a smooth rim before? is it good? ever slipped?thanks very much JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 has anyone used a smooth rim before? is it good? ever slipped?JKMost people did before someone thought about attackign there wheel with an angle grinder.when clean and dry the brake will be sweet, powerful and possibly have a bit of modualtion depending on pads.as soon as it gets dirty/wet performance will be compromised, so be prepared to keep it clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I always used to use smooth rims and didn't have a problem with a bit of tar. Thing is in the wet they used to go crap, but then that was with standard Magura pads. Give it a go, although with the weather starting to turn grotty you might have to grind the rim.I can't re-grind mine 'cos some kid smashed into my car and nicked my grinder!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I've ran smooth rim for ages! It's a good idea. Rim last longer.Heatsink reds are good on a smooth rim, and light/medium grind. Onza pads are VERY good, But Zoo pads are even better. Just clean your rim every few week. With something..... I used to do a SUPER light grind then sand it off, and that was very good even with zoo pads. Tar is a good thing in the summer. But when you are riding in the rain/wet, don't bother. It will be off in a mater of minutes! I can't re-grind mine 'cos some kid smashed into my car and nicked my grinder!!Buy mine for a tenner + P&P?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinold Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I use a smooth rim and i found it rubbish only because i had a s**t set up but i have made the effort to set up my brake and now it is amazing My brake never slips any more at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I've always used a smooth rim, or a very very dead grind depending on how you look at it.I just don't ride in the rain, never have never will.I just lightly tar my rim, but most of the time it dosn't look like it has any on at all. Just make sure you get some decent pads, preferably zoo, and don't go OTT with the tar. Less is more, as the saying goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Geary Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Smooth rim, Zoo pads and a lil i mean lil bit of tar. Best brake i ever had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Rowan rides with a smooth rim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 smooth rims are fine for power in the dry, + your pads will last longer, however, in the wet a smooth rim is useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarrick Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 let me know how the red/cnc backing works. im gonna try smooth with blues but i was wondering what would be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Fried Rice Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 let me know how the red/cnc backing works. im gonna try smooth with blues but i was wondering what would be betterok i willkyle hinchcliffe (if thats how you spell him name, i know its wrong) uses it on a smooth rim, he says its really good.JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintsauce96 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I've alway's used a smooth rim. Your rims and pads will last longer.I use Plazmatic pads and in the dry its the perfect brake. If they get wet... not so good, but they don't take long to dry out and I don't ride in the rain much anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Boy Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I ran a smooth tryall rim with Koxx Bloxx Brown for about 6 months, obviously it slipped a couple of times but the bite was perfect. Im not gonna get a grind again, either get ZOO! Pads or Koxx Pads again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo_Monkey Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 ran zoo pads on my D521 creamic - 0 modulation 100% power ran palsmatic spanish fly on a smooth with alittle tar - again cant fault it currently run zoo pads on a grind, just as good but works in the wet to. pads last about 2 months though - which reminds me..... off to tartybikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTF Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Kyle says that the Heatsink Reds are exelent on smooth rims, and I believe him.Personally I prefer to grind my rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 smooth rims are fine for street. But for comps grinds are the only way to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 In the dry smooth rims are better, just as slick tyres are better in F1 and the like, because there is more surface contact between the pad and the rim which means more friction and therefore better braking.As mentioned this is compromised in the wet as with tyres because the water cannot dispurse and the pad rides on top of a film of water, very poor friction, so a grin will help because water can dispurse in the ridges formed when you grind a rim.That's the science anyway, personally I don't like riding in the wet anyway so I prefer smooth rims with a bit of tar (just a very light touch though) but I'd imagine in comps a grind would be advantageous as yuo never know what you'll come up against!Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron-i'anson Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 All depends on what pads you're running. Smooth summer bit of tar. Grind winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 (edited) I ride smooth rims w/heatsink reds (V's though, not maggy's, so yours might not be as good ).Fooking great in t' dry, but forget it in the wet. Simple as. If you only ride in t' dry, a coupla pairs of heatsink reds + a bottle of muc-off is a sound investment that will last you far longer than lots of new rims, an angle grinder, and lots of new pads will. I've had my first set of reds on since January I think, and they're not showing any signs of wear yet. It still looks like there's the same amount of pad left as there was when they were new.Muc-off does wonders for smooth rims as well. Smooth rims pick up dust and crap and start to feel poo after a while, but a quick blast with Muc Off brings them back to neighbourhood-waking levels of power.If you want quiet brakes, this probably isn't a good option However, reds on a light/dead grind are pretty good for modulation without losing power, and aren't as face-removingly loud.So probably let your front rim see the grinder from across the room (or even just sand it a bit), but leave the rear smooth. I know that sounds arse about face, but trust me on this one Just my 10p.EDIT: Oh and forget the tar. Waste of time, effort, and rim. Muc-off instead (no I'm not endorsed/sponsored/whatever by them, but it is bloody good stuff) Edited October 18, 2006 by Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsey Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 has anyone used a smooth rim before? is it good? ever slipped?thanks very much JKCome on JK i think everyone has, i mean you dont get many new rims already grinded now do we? If you get some half decent pads, im guessing there fine.. Im running on smooth Echo Rims and Koxx Greens, not the best combo but still very strong with a well bled brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 If your keeping a smooth rim, do the sensible thing and use Zoo! pads!! They are the nuts provided you don't get 'em wet. At £13 a pair from 'trialsman' you can't really go wrong. Unless you like riding in the sea Cheears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 I run a smooth DX-32 and v-fly pads. Brilliant in the dry, tiniest bit of water howver, and I have no brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Why've they gotta make these pads all lairy colours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 anyone considered dual disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 For winter, keeping your rim smooth is an exceptionally bad idea, which could have hugely catastrophic effects on your health and well being. Buy some decent pads (ie. Plazmatic CRM's or Koxx Green's - www.tartybikes.co.uk) and get the grinder out !Cheers,Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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