Tomm Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I'm not going to make fun of someone in a wheelchair, neither would I make fun of someone who feels affection for the same sex. I feel sorry for them.Why would you feel sorry for them? What if they have a better life than you?P.S. This is by far the best topic in here in a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoojames Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I think I get what this Concussion geezar is saying, that he thinks they are handicapped in some way, as someone who has a mental disorder is. This is of course complete bull shit and he should be put down (awaits someone to post a google picture of a cute seal being hit with a spade, ta)And Ogre, I'm going to hurt you.Being gay is a life choice, its not like being black or white, thats genetic, but you can choose if you want to shit stab or not! Okay so some people may never find females attractive, gay from birth lalala, but some don't! I almost agree with people who say "its not natural" nature tells us to procreate, and being gay stops this, but at the same time nature teaches us to be curious, so why not?As was said earlier, I'd rather go to the pub with a bunch of gays than a bunch of homophobes!James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Being gay is a life choiceNot sure if I agree.Kinda see where your coming from, but I doubt gays choose to be gay. I don't see why they would choose to be gay, when if it was that easy they could choose to be straight instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 How comes it's ok to hate homophobes but it's not ok to hate gays.Both are choices of the individual.I don't hate gays by the way before i am singled out for this comment, just it all seems a bit hypocritical that people complain about people complaining about gays.At the end of the day, if both parties are comfortable and can keep it to themselves, just leave it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I think I get what this Concussion geezar is saying, that he thinks they are handicapped in some way, as someone who has a mental disorder is. This is of course complete bull shit and he should be put down (awaits someone to post a google picture of a cute seal being hit with a spade, ta)And Ogre, I'm going to hurt you.Being gay is a life choice, its not like being black or white, thats genetic, but you can choose if you want to shit stab or not! Okay so some people may never find females attractive, gay from birth lalala, but some don't! I almost agree with people who say "its not natural" nature tells us to procreate, and being gay stops this, but at the same time nature teaches us to be curious, so why not?As was said earlier, I'd rather go to the pub with a bunch of gays than a bunch of homophobes!James How young are you?Seriously dude are you like 12 or something? If so, stop talking to me EVER!f**king world is going to shit with free thinkers like you! Close this thread before I explode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) How comes it's ok to hate homophobes but it's not ok to hate gays.They are two completely different things?Thats like saying why is it ok to hate racists but not black people? Edited October 13, 2006 by adamtrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Yeh, but people are saying how it's someones choice if their gay.It's also someones choice if they don't like gays.It seems a bit odd that those who don't like them are moaned at and are told to live with it. Why can't they just live with the fact that they don't like them.It's not like they'll ever meet each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) Being gay is a life choice, its not like being black or white, thats genetic, but you can choose if you want to shit stab or not! Okay so some people may never find females attractive, gay from birth lalala, but some don't! James I don't know a single gay person that'd agree with that. What grounds do you say that some people choose to be gay? I'm not being facecious here, if there's some study or something I've missed I'd be interested to hear JoePS Thanks to everyone for not flipping out and flaming me, we've definitely come on past the 1950s kinda mentality.EDIT: Extra clarification, I'm bi. I've always had an issue understanding how one would dismiss someone as attractive based on the body they're born in. I; however, am capable of just accepting that some people think differently to me Edited October 13, 2006 by Josephine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) I wasnt judging you, didnt know you were gay, i said MEN...I have an opinion, you chose to be gay, bi, I chose straight!What is wrong with me saying I don't like gays??I said people may find this harsh because some will, like yourself, and some won't.All those people who said no must feel the same way otherwise they wouldn't have said no...EDIT: and you saying your capable of accepting other peoples opinions, are you bollocks, you just had a f**king go at me! Edited October 13, 2006 by Si-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 i have more against homophobes than gays.Mat, these are modern times. I have nothing against homophobes. As long as they're homophobic behind closed doors and don't hurt anyone, then I'm fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Mat, these are modern times. I have nothing against homophobes. As long as they're homophobic behind closed doors and don't hurt anyone, then I'm fine with it. Im like that, its not asif i go up to a gay an mash his face in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 ok i'm back from work, and don't want to start an argument or anything but i just wanted to make one more point.Gay people/people who argue the point for gays always say to me, You can't hate someone for being gay, its the way they were born, they can't help the way they feel.And that's fair enough, i can understand that and see it from their point of view, However, when i get asked (like in this instance) about my OPINIONS on the subject, anything other that 'Yeh i love gays' gets my head biten off.Thats unfair, because in the same way gay people are attracted to the same sex, i can't help but feel hostile towards that. Its the way i am, i can't just suddenly change the way i feel about gay people, in exactly the same way gay people can't one day wake up and start fancying a bit of pink.I could understand if i walked around with a mega-phone shouting "ban gays from the world" or some other crazy person protest slogans, but i don't. I keep my opinions to myself unless i get asked about it, or a few of my straight mates bring the subject up.So to the pro-gay people, stop having a go at the people who hate GAYNESS, they don't hate you personally, they just don't like the idea of two (or more) men getting it on, getting married, having kids and so on. Its just plain wrong IN OUR OPINION, and that what we got asked about.Asking us to be ok with you being gay, is like us asking you to stop fancying men.as many a gay man has said to me, 'deal with it'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 lmao i back si up with his gay bashing, i dont think its right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) I wasnt judging you, didnt know you were gay, i said MEN... You judged all gay men, being as I fit that category I'd be interested to know how you think you weren't judging me. Plus; don't talk down to me. I'm 18, I vote, I pay tax, I'm male. Man suits me just fine as a definition, thanks. I have an opinion, you chose to be gay, bi, I chose straight! You didn't choose straight, you've always just known, well same for me. What is wrong with me saying I don't like gays?? Nothing. At no point have I said you're not allowed to. I've not even said I don't like you. However, you've explicitly said you hated me. I've got a right to be a little indignant methinks. I also happen to think your values on this subject are badly taken and badly held, forgive me for trying to push back the veil of ignorance a little.I said people may find this harsh because some will, like yourself, and some won't. It's the world may I disagree with here. Some people will find it offensive (me, for instance). All those people who said no must feel the same way otherwise they wouldn't have said no... What a non-argument Just because other people don't get it doesn't mean you can hide behind their ignorance as well as your own. EDIT: and you saying your capable of accepting other peoples opinions, are you bollocks, you just had a f**king go at me! Nope, I said I can accept other people's sexualities, they run a little deeper than opinions and I really couldn't change them if I wanted to (I don't). I'll reiterate what I said above. You offended me; and not something I've chosen for myself like my politics (which I'll quite happily take criticism on), but something that's just a part of who I am. You'll excuse me if I have a go at you Idiots beware: I've got my head screwed on and I known my way round an argument. Your rhetorical crap will not sit well with me. I respond to reasoned argument, well, reasonably I'll not be intimidated by invective or non-sensical ramblings (see above).Joe x Edited October 13, 2006 by Josephine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) You judged all gay men, being as I fit that category I'd be interested to know how you think you weren't judging me. Plus; don't talk down to me. I'm 18, I vote, I pay tax, I'm male. Man suits me just fine as a definition, thanks.I'm 19, also pay tax and vote and male is it so bad that i dont like gay men??Do you like straight men? Is it right?The thread starter said you can include your opinion, I did! Edited October 13, 2006 by Si-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I'm 19, also pay tax and vote and male is it so bad that i dont like gay men??Do you like straight men? Is it right?The thread starter said you can include your opinion, I did! If you care to read what I wrote you'll find I've answered both your questions. No it's not bad that you don't like gay men per se, what I take issue with is that there's nothing resembling cogent reasoning behind it; and yes, it's right, there's nothing wrong with having a sexuality. Just because I can't I identify with it personally doesn't mean I reject it out of hand. This is where you and I seem to diverge. Joe xPS You'll note I included my opinion as well, it's just that mine's well-founded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 but i f**king despise gay men.I dont care if any of you call me a homophobe, doesn't bother me (before you all start nagging) lmao i back si up with his gay bashing, i dont think its right.The way I think about it is, imagine you’re born into a world where humans were naturally attracted to the same sex. But you were different, you felt attracted to the opposite sex. And there were also a few people out there who were also like you, attracted to the opposite sex. What would you do? How would you live your life?I don't even really need to wait for an answer because everyone says they'd live life dating / having sex with females, no matter what other people thought.I don't believe that someone is gay from the day they're born. I believe that due to the way they were brought up, life experiences and other things like is what makes someone their sexuality.I have no problems with gays what so ever.So long as people are happy with their sexuality, I wouldn’t care if my brother, farther, or bet friend told me they were gay.What I do have a problem with though is some gay peoples personalities. Some particular big brother contestants do spring to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) yay! my turn again(drunk now so bear with mr)i hate everyone. bummers, straight people, memmbers of parliament, emos ,goths, chavs ,the f**king lot of you. you're all coonts in my book . this makes me either he the least or most predjuiced person on the forum. either way the person i like most on the basis o this thead alone is josephine. I dont give the slightst toss where he prefers to put his willy ,he's the only one (with three exception of my darling davey) whos said anything logical and reasonable in the wholr damn threadjoe, i love you nearly as much as i love daveyedit:andi want to puta stop to this whoele bumming is unnnatural idea. go off and read the damn bible if you're going to spout that stuff - it's called original sin because its one of the first sins man committed. Edited October 13, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 yay! my turn again(drunk now so bear with mr)i hate everyone. bummers, straight people, memmbers of parliament, emos ,goths, chavs ,the f**king lot of you. you're all coonts in my book . this makes me either he the least or most predjuiced person on the forum. either way the person i like most on the basis o this thead alone is josephine. I dont give the slightst toss where he prefers to put his willy ,he's the only one (with three exception of my darling davey) whos said anything logical and reasonable in the wholr damn threadjoe, i love you nearly as much as i love daveyedit:andi want to puta stop to this whoele bumming is unnnatural idea. go off and read the damn bible if you're going to spout that stuff - it's called original sin because its one of the first sins man committed. Aww you big drunk bugger, you've earnt yourself a purely platonic hug Joe x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Nicely contradicted yourself there poopipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoojames Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 How young are you?Seriously dude are you like 12 or something? If so, stop talking to me EVER!f**king world is going to shit with free thinkers like you! Close this thread before I explode!Yes I am exactly 12, well done.Moving onI get the whole you can be born gay as you can be straight, but at the same time you can choose to be gay and outspoken about it or not, more importantly if you think you swing both ways you can choose which you want.It's like right now, your telling me that because I class myself as straight if I thought "I wonder what it'd be like to have a boyfriend" that I cant change my preferance? I've never thought about being gay before, but if I did it'd be my choice, some people just don't see it like that.I'm a pretty literate 12 year old huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Mat, these are modern times. I have nothing against homophobes. As long as they're homophobic behind closed doors and don't hurt anyone, then I'm fine with it.eddie izzard line doesn't bother me, but what does annoy me is people who make a big deal about having gay friends. There is this woman at work who always makes a big deal about the fact she has gay friends, its actually funny. She say stuff like 'i went to brighton to visit a gay friend of mine.' jeez grow up i give a shit about how hip and funky you think you are for having gay friends. I don't say stuff like 'i went to the pub with a black/left handed/ginger friend of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsey Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 camp people should be shot, and gay men.. dont deserve a penis.. its just totally wrong.. if they keep themselves to themselves i dont mind, but when there camp i do get annoyed, and feel like getting out a 12 gauge... yes its probably just me in my own little words, being a homophobe, but sorry i dont get along with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 camp people should be shot, and gay men.. dont deserve a penis.. its just totally wrong.. if they keep themselves to themselves i dont mind, but when there camp i do get annoyed, and feel like getting out a 12 gauge... yes its probably just me in my own little words, being a homophobe, but sorry i dont get along with them... Dear crikey, another one?! Why the hell shouldn't I have a penis? I quite enjoy it, and I'm not to taken with the idea of giving it up to please your sensisibilities. I get annoyed when people insult me for no reason. While we're on the subject of violence I'm pretty sure I could take you out. Not all gay guys are slight and girly, mate Joe x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 I have no problem at all with gay or bi. Why should people oppress others because there different in what they enjoy in a sexual sense? Surely this hsould mean gays should start flaming straights for putting there penis inside a girl. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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