Jez Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 OK, i'm a complete n00b when it comes to 24" stuff, and I'm toying with the idea of getting one.Is there anything other than the rims, forks, & frame itself that are like 'non standard' parts?What's the thing gonna feel like (I'd expect it to feel somewhere between a stock and a mod, but I'm ASSuming there)? Anything silly going on in terms of stem reach/angle? Risers or flat bars reccomended?I'm probably gonna build the thing up myself (never really trusted complete builds, I like to know exactly what's on my bike), so I'd like to get it at least close first time around rather than shelling out a fortune replacing bits that just ain't 'right' later on down the line.Anyone got any reccomendations for a moddy-feeling frame with a seatpost?cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 tyres will be a point of contention. maxxis make good 24" ones (swampthing for trials trials...holyroller for street) tioga comp x are ace for street to.forks won't matter unless you run a rim brake. the higher the better (IMO, for street i guess.) same with the rise of your stem and number of stem stackers.deffo use riser bars. 2" eastons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Agree with what Matt said but not sure on what you said about it feeling half way between a mod and a 26". It depends on setup and whatever, but I think it's more like between a 26" and a BMX or something (although much nearer to a trials bike than to a BMX). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjibs Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Just go for it... !24s are sooo much fun to ride. After bout 7-8 years of ridin 26.. i wuz gettin a little "bored" with ridin.Til i got a little ET to play around on.. now i dont ride 26 anymore!!They feel just perfect for street and do ok on natty... though they're definately betta suited to streetjibbery!leeson, curtis and freshproducts seem to be the leaders ere....somthin bout the 24uk just makes me cringe (imo)hope that helps dude.d@nnY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) Defenetly go forward with that idea ! As for parts, the boon, mentioned a couple of tires, I'd add the Kenda k-rad to the list (I don't know if it's available in the UK) it's basically a soft bead, soft compound, really light, slick tire, only comes in 2.3 width, if that matters to you. Another thing to consider on a 24" is that weight matters less than on a stock and the bike will probably get beaten up more, torsion forces applied from spins would probably kill certain trials specific parts very fast. So you might want to take a look at some MTB and BMX parts, especially since some of them are cheaper... You might want to try some of your friends 24"ers before deciding wish way you want to go, because, I think there are allot more choices to make a on a street bike than a pure trials bike... Especially how you want to ride it if you're a first timer. Edited October 11, 2006 by paolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todge Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I have a question aimed at Berridge (and others in the know) here about tyres.I run a Nokian Gazzalodi on the rear, which I really like due to the very low rolling resistance, buts its awful for pinching and isnt too grippy on natural. So for natural, I run a big Maxxis High Roller, which has loads of grip, just doesnt get puncture, is a fantastic tyre, but simply doesnt roll on the street.I didnt realise how much difference a tyre can make to the bikes overall feel until i changed these round a few times.Im looking to get a new tyre, which caters for the best of both of these. What is the Swamp Thing like for rolling resistance? I presume with it being a 2-ply maxxis, it will resist punctures well?Are they any other alternatives to suggest?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Don't forget about this thread.Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Im looking to get a new tyre, which caters for the best of both of these. What is the Swamp Thing like for rolling resistance? I presume with it being a 2-ply maxxis, it will resist punctures well?If anything, the Swampthing will have more rolling resistance than a high roller. I run one: Good grip, good puncture resistance, but not great for rolling stuff. Another thing to consider on a 24" is that weight matters less than on a stock and the bike will probably get beaten up more, torsion forces applied from spins would probably kill certain trials specific parts very fast. Like Ashton ET Frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTF Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Spank Oobah Stiffy Rims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 torsion forces applied from spins would probably kill certain trials specific parts very fast. *sorry to steal the thread a bit*What gets killed with spinnier moves? (i'm a little 180 whore ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 *sorry to steal the thread a bit*What gets killed with spinnier moves? (i'm a little 180 whore )Frames, rims. Although I think you're more likely to wreck rims by doing drop gaps all the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Frames, rims. Although I think you're more likely to wreck rims by doing drop gaps all the time...Depends, landing laterally is probably harder on the wheel, though this depends alot on the rim used, and of course the lacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Jez you are doing the right thing buddy for the bits where you ride and getting to work and shizzle it will suit a lot of your needs and your not a weight freakso you can make it pretty robust. 24 is going to be my next project I think , I've had so much more fun on them lately. Taffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I have a question aimed at Berridge (and others in the know) here about tyres.I run a Nokian Gazzalodi on the rear, which I really like due to the very low rolling resistance, buts its awful for pinching and isnt too grippy on natural. So for natural, I run a big Maxxis High Roller, which has loads of grip, just doesnt get puncture, is a fantastic tyre, but simply doesnt roll on the street.I didnt realise how much difference a tyre can make to the bikes overall feel until i changed these round a few times.Im looking to get a new tyre, which caters for the best of both of these. What is the Swamp Thing like for rolling resistance? I presume with it being a 2-ply maxxis, it will resist punctures well?Are they any other alternatives to suggest?Cheersi have run both the swampthing and highroller and imo the swampthings feels way better and out of the two I would run that. At the moment I am running a holyroller which is awesome but I am going to look into the arrow launch tires again for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Jez you are doing the right thing buddy for the bits where you ride and getting to work and shizzle it will suit a lot of your needs and your not a weight freakso you can make it pretty robust. 24 is going to be my next project I think , I've had so much more fun on them lately. TaffyThought you'd say that you Welshie Fitting 24 sheep into your room will probably be your next project...Anyone here ridden the 24UK? Does it feel ANYTHING like a 24" Monty would (I've come to the uninformed-but-practical conclusion that I like Monty geometry) if it existed? Or are we talking more UCI or BMX feel here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Another thing to think of that wasn't mentioned is the gear ratio... I'm running a ridiculously hard ratio, what do most of you use. I'm guessing most are riding harder then stocks, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 I run 22:16 which is about average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 24:18 for meWas running 24:16 for a while (effectively a mod ratio) but dropped it a little some time ago now for more control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 i run 20-16 and i believe that boon and matt both run 22-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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