North Korea Did The Nuclear Testing....

[Haz]

If I was South Korea, I might have a little more interest in whether they get nuclear weapons, however, I remember last year or the year before North Korea stated they were going to be testing for uclear power and power failures and fallout, so considering I havn't ready anything but the BBC article, could it be that.

I would however be woried if Iran were allowed nuclear weapons.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

[Extreme_biker0]

We should be ok. North Korea would be assured of its destruction if it were to nuke us, by vitue of the fact that I think that would be a case for pushing our own, far superior and long-range buttons.

In fact, my analysis of the situation would be that it will not launch a nuke at all. The main thing on its agenda is to get back south korea, and through this demonstration of nuclear power it is in a much better position to do so.

Beforehand, if it were to have invaded south korea, chances are the international community (America) would have stepped in and put a stop to it.

However now Bush might just turn a blind eye, for fear of having a large portion of the USA suddenly turned glow-in-the-dark.

Someones already said correctly that you would not nuke a land you want to claim as your own. Instead, they will take South Korea using non-nuclear force, and use the nukes as a deterrent to stop the international community stepping in and stopping them.

Genious!

Only problem is, will they stop at South Korea?

[Sam Nichols]

Anyone want to hazzard a guess at how long it'll be before good ol' George Dubbya wages war on North Korea?

He just did pretty much, on the News.

The thing that worries me as most people on here have touched on is not the fact that they now have nuclear weapons really.. I mean I wouldn't really expect them to use them really - the repercussions would be ridiculous..

HOWEVER

Now that George Bush has gone all alpha male on their ass with all this bullshit about it being a provocative act threatening peace and stability and basically saying he's not gonna sit back and let them get away with it..

Does anyone remember what happened last time Bush went on about not letting a certain group of people get away with an attack? How many times has england been dragged in and attacked as a result?

He's gonna go after korea now, chuck in troops and allsorts.. It's gonna get hostile and shits gonna hit the fan.

I don't normally get pessimistic about stuff, but this is actually pretty scary. I think if your all like 'nah, nothings gonna happen, this means nothing' etc then you're naive.

Apologies for poor english in this post, im typing quick 'cause it's time for tea!

[tipsy Jock]

I've thought of a few other points now, Nuclear weapons were in a way a good thing, without them WWII would have gone on a whole lot longer, i don't mean in Japan that was by no means a good thing. However without that threat i can imagine both Britain/America and the U.S.S.R would have thought a lot more seriously about jaunting off into the occupied territory of the other. Think about it the threat of mutually assured destruction meant that neither side were willing to push things to far, the cuban missle crisis for example was as hot as the cold war got.

With North Korea a nuclear weapon is means for the communists to stay in power, they are paranoid of foreign invasion and a nuclear detterent is the ultimate of defence mechanisms. They aren't going to lob one off our way because that would guarantee that their country would be levelled and no one in the civilised world would oppose that should it happen. The main fear is that the technology will fall into terrorist hands or other unfriendly states, now to me that seems pretty damn scary.

p.s Deng is Chinese or Tawainese isn't he? Seems a little harsh branding him a terrorist to me

Pete

Edit: Oh and i reckon U.S troops are strechted pretty thin at the moment and British troops already strecthed to far, i wouldn't anticipate Korea getting a kindly visit from G.I Joe any time soon unless of course they go off on one and invade a certain neighbour.

Edited October 9, 2006 by tipsy Jock

[yoyoyo]

Thats a good point about them not nuking S.Korea if they want it back. Never actually thought of that.

Anyway,should they start a war, It's not a massive country that will dissapear off the map.

If America does invade N. Korea, then it will be just like that Mercenaries game that was out. Can't say it was a pretty game though.

[plainlazy84]

I have done a fair bit of reading on North Korea because its pretty interesting how f**ked up the place is and how badly it's run. Before you moan about living in Britain spare a thought for the poor buggers in North Korea.

Their leader has an ego the size of a planet and whilst millions of North Koreans starve to death due to an incredibly poor economy and living standards he spends almost all of the countries budget on the military (5th largest in the world for what is a tiny country) and builds huge stadiums, landmarks and statues of himself. Take a look at this.....

Billy big head. The guy is an egomaniac and its no suprise that he is testing nucleur weapons. Kind of like "look at me and my new toys. You better Watch out"

The country is not only communist it's a complete dictatorship- You can't enter or leave the country. There is no access to information that hasn't been government regulated. So that's no internet, no TV, no newspapers, no radio. Basically if you don't do what the government tell you to do (bow down to Kimmy for example) you will be locked away, and there is a good chance you will be beaten, raped and murdered.

They don't really have any real allies. China are probably as close to an allie as they've got and they have heavily condemned the act. Bush & Blair wont go to war on Korea because look how stretched our militaries already are with Iraq and Afghanistan- not to mention public opinion. Its a very clever move by North Korea because they picked a time when the worlds two most powerful militaries will be able to do very little.

It wont affect us for the time being anyway, and I cant see a nuclear war breaking out anytime soon, but then you never know. It interests me & scares me at the same time none the less.

[br3n]

im sure if we wanted to test some nukes and north korea didnt want us to we wouldnt care less, dont blame them at all.

[Gavyn.]

this will make me sound an arsehole but...

isn't it better to threaten than be threatened?

if there's no other option Id rather be standing behind the bloke with the biggest stick than in front of him.

i agree but at the moment it's bush with the big stick and he's already started 2 wars what's stopping him starting a 3rd don't we already have a british submarine in the water which can fire a neucluer weapon at any time? a tried and tested one which we know will work and will hit it's target, where as the koreans only have a weapon which will cover 800 miles. i have no worries as far as i'm concerned we're miles ahead of them technology wise and most of it's media hype the koreans are just toy ing with the idea

[Mark W]

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[yoyoyo]

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[CBProductions]

They are just trying to prove to the US that they arent going to be bullied into submission, which is a foolish idead but ahh well their leader is a nutcase anyway. They dont have the capability to launch the missile yet so its not like They are a threat yet , but watch bush go and invade it anyway just for having something different to him.

[JT!]

OMGZZZ!!!!!!11 OBM is back.

He'll never be back for good, he's got a life now.

[Ash-Kennard]

I was having a conversation about this at school, and all it lead to was us singing "how'd you solve a problem like korea" instead "of saying "how'd you solve a problem like maria". very witty indeed. mrs wood looked at us quite puzzled when she walked in.

Edited October 10, 2006 by ash-kennard

[munkee]

meh to be honest the whole f**king eastern world is f**ked completely. Iraq, afgan, iran, israel, korea, china even india is a proper shithole.. Absalutely screwed. Half of those countrys just ooze examples of why communism and dictatorships never bloody work. If it was left to me we would wipe the whole lot out and then the french.

[poopipe]

be fair

Plenty of dictatorships have worked really well. It's the only system that runs neatly along with good old human nature.

you need to wach out for the idealists - communists and religious types are the real bastards, dictators are at least honest about their intentions

[tipsy Jock]

be fair

Plenty of dictatorships have worked really well. It's the only system that runs neatly along with good old human nature.

you need to wach out for the idealists - communists and religious types are the real bastards, dictators are at least honest about their intentions

Any examples? The only one that i can think was Tito in Yugoslavia, possibly the only example of communism that worked.

[Ducko]

i might just decided to test a nuke up one of there ass's,

mad country somewhere that shouldnt have big weapons at all!!

but i guess who doesnt like blowing shit up

[tipsy Jock]

Seems the US are being pretty reasonable about it. no plans of invasion yet, just embargos and searchs of ships coming into North Korea. Just saw the news and apparently North and South Korea are technically still at war, i wouldn't like to live in South Korea right now

[plainlazy84]

Apparently North Korea would consider navy ships entering their waters and forming any kind of blockade as an "act of war". The US military and it's allies are far too stretched to launch an attack so its no suprise they are acting reasonably- they don't really have much choice. George Bush despises the North Korean regieme and if you remember it was on his axis of evil list a few years ago. When Clinton was in he kissed their arses in order to get them to drop their weapons programme, but when Bush came in the US cut all communication off and refused to negotiate with them- which has no doubt pissed off Kim no end. Good move

[omgnoseat]

I don't really mind as long as they keep those things far away from any lizards

[MadManMike]

I'm with Spacemunkee - sick to death of seeing suicide car bombs, missle attacks etc on the news.

I know it's not all of them, but the countries as a whole area a feckin' joke.

[Krisboats]

Anyone notice the subtle propaganda on the news? The fact that they showed a missile being launched instead of sticking with the truth that korea set off the nuclear device in an abadoned mine to minimise the effect of the blast.

Kinda done to make people think korea has actually done something wrong by firing missiles around

[munkee]

Apparently North Korea would consider navy ships entering their waters and forming any kind of blockade as an "act of war". The US military and it's allies are far too stretched to launch an attack so its no suprise they are acting reasonably- they don't really have much choice. George Bush despises the North Korean regieme and if you remember it was on his axis of evil list a few years ago. When Clinton was in he kissed their arses in order to get them to drop their weapons programme, but when Bush came in the US cut all communication off and refused to negotiate with them- which has no doubt pissed off Kim no end. Good move

End of the day why should a super power have to go round licking arse to stop people building bombs. It pisses me the f**k off when people say "but the usa has them, the usa builds them etc". Look at the usa.. and then look at your average eastern country. Id rather let the "dumb" americans have all the bloody bombs than let the suicide/torturing/mentalists have them. Its a typical episode of captain scarlet. Crazy asians with bombs that need taking down hard.

Heres a big 2p from me.. let america rule the world. As dumb and as stupid people think george bush is he is the only one with enough power and the biggest balls i have ever seen to sort this world out. He's already fixed up iraq and afgan for the most part.. yea yea theres a few little shits left in there but for the most part... they are all dead. How long did that take? a few weeks?

The US army is hardly overstretched theyhave half a million in active service with 700,000 reserves/national guard. Something like 140,000 in iraq and 10,000 in afgan. Oh and like 40,000 in south korea. They can still destroy and im sure we will convince the french to send in some "heavy" forces.. which will be estimated at 4000 men, but will really contain 10 engineers and 1 numpty who got on the wrong plane.

[PaRtZ]

Anyone notice the subtle propaganda on the news? The fact that they showed a missile being launched instead of sticking with the truth that korea set off the nuclear device in an abadoned mine to minimise the effect of the blast.

What news was that? If it was ITN or BBC i think they're just being 'tards lol I was that bored yesterday I tried searching for the place where they exploded it on flash earth. I could only find the place where they built to warhead lol

Spacemunkee, the only reason why Bush ISN'T ruling the world is because he doesn't want to (I asked him last night) I mean who wants to rule a third world country? Also a lot of religious eastern country think its completely wrong to be ruled by America and would sooner die to protect their "pride" which admitedly looks a bit strange.

[tipsy Jock]

End of the day why should a super power have to go round licking arse to stop people building bombs. It pisses me the f**k off when people say "but the usa has them, the usa builds them etc". Look at the usa.. and then look at your average eastern country. Id rather let the "dumb" americans have all the bloody bombs than let the suicide/torturing/mentalists have them. Its a typical episode of captain scarlet. Crazy asians with bombs that need taking down hard.

Heres a big 2p from me.. let america rule the world. As dumb and as stupid people think george bush is he is the only one with enough power and the biggest balls i have ever seen to sort this world out. He's already fixed up iraq and afgan for the most part.. yea yea theres a few little shits left in there but for the most part... they are all dead. How long did that take? a few weeks?

The US army is hardly overstretched theyhave half a million in active service with 700,000 reserves/national guard. Something like 140,000 in iraq and 10,000 in afgan. Oh and like 40,000 in south korea. They can still destroy and im sure we will convince the french to send in some "heavy" forces.. which will be estimated at 4000 men, but will really contain 10 engineers and 1 numpty who got on the wrong plane.

Finally someone that shares my viewpoint lol