trials 123 Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 well i have a hope mini witch work but is due for a bleed our just a top upcould any one let me no weather i have to send to n a bike shop or i can just top it up my self thanks sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) Do it you selfI bleed form the base up with it off the bikeTake it off the bikeRemove the pads Fit the leaver clamp in vics as if it was on your bikeRemove top capPush pistions all the way back in with a screwdrive and a cloth, carefull of the DOT fuild shooiting outNow fit soemthing in the pistions to keep them apart, my sons Lego does the job.I use a syringe with DOT 5.1 and bit of hose on the end that fit over the bleed nippleUndo the bleed nipple 1/4 of a turn with syringe fitted overSlowly push down on the syringe to bleed the fulid throuhgAs you do this PUMP on the leaver slolwyOnce bled seal the bleed nipple offRemove the syringeFit top capWipe the brake offTake it and give it a wash in hot soapy water and give it a good scrubbingNow fit the pads againFit to the bikeIt should work spot on and be a better bleed than hopeYou can thank me latterEdit:opes way, page 9 item 3.3 PDF doc Edited October 2, 2006 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 like he said^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 so i just undo that little nipple screw my bleed kit in the same i use to bleed my hs33put something in clappers then just pump it through untill that little resivor fills up but i took the cap off to dayand the resivor was full i even topped it up an it wa still the same but i didn't pump it but i will give it a go tomorrow thanks for all your help sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Yeah you can use you Magura bleed kit if the hose will fit!Make sure you syringe full of DOT 5.1 1st and fitted on before you undo the nipple.You have trapped air in the hose, behind the pistions, in the claiper join, a fubabred seal at claiper or leaverBleed it so it over flow the resiovr in the laeaver, so you'll need to put a paper towle there lots of them or a bowle or bucket to ctach it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 thank you for all your help i will give it a go tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Ching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 thank again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 OO nice find Tom, Lee was a good handy bloke to have on here but he no longer rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 i have had a go at it and it is alot better thanks but i used dot 3 brake fluid and on the to cap 1 of my bolt rounded on it so i don't no what i should do it is tight and working but i cant get it out or anything do he an idea of getting it out and putting a new one in should i send it to hope or something i dont no what to do thanks sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 i have had a go at it and it is alot better thanks but i used dot 3 brake fluid and on the to cap 1 of my bolt rounded on it so i don't no what i should do it is tight and working but i cant get it out or anything do he an idea of getting it out and putting a new one in should i send it to hope or something i dont no what to do thanks sam Can you not read!!! Top cap says dot 4 or 5.1 only!!! The manual i posted a link with says it too...You used a f**ked allen key and over tigthen it!!! They do new top caps with bigger bolts which are tons better, they are on tartybikesTo get that bolt out, hack saw a gove in there and use a thing flat scredriver pushing uber hard dopwn on it and undo it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 i have dot 4 and 5.1 but i there all same bottle and i got that 1 and bleed it then rerlized what dot it was will it brake it having dot 3 in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re bleed it!!! ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 i cant get the cap off to do it what will it do to my brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 READ THE TOPICI've told you how already kid, i hate repating my self and with so far i have more than once!if you are still f**ked then you can send it to hope cost you £40 or i'll do it for you and bleed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 ok so i will buy one of them things off tartybikes and if i cant do it i will send it to you and pay you to do it if you want but will it damage ma brake to ride it on dot 3 fluid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Do what i said about removing the bolt! Cutting the slot!Get the new top cap as you wont have this problem again. In fact i might have two leavrs going spear!I'll do it for you no problems, same day as i get it it'll be done and dispatched back.Yeah i advise to bleed it again or drain it dry!Dot 3 is not what hope says to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Odd i've had water in my Magura for 4+ years still not a problem!!!Dot 3 is not what hope says to useErm, so where do you draw the line?At least DOT 3 is remotely close to DOT 4 or so, and so is close enough to what Hope use.Water in a Magura isn't what they say to use...A little hypocritical there Pete don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 The seals go in Hope easy when it's not what they say to use a very proven fact that took age to click on with the DH boys back in the day.All sorted now anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials 123 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 i might try water is it good and if you have had it for 4 years it must be a good fluid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Yeah water is good but MAGURAS ONLYI also used WD40 thats settled it's self down so the sluge is on the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Do it you selfI bleed form the base up with it off the bikeTake it off the bikeRemove the pads Fit the leaver clamp in vics as if it was on your bikeRemove top capPush pistions all the way back in with a screwdrive and a cloth, carefull of the DOT fuild shooiting outNow fit soemthing in the pistions to keep them apart, my sons Lego does the job.I use a syringe with DOT 5.1 and bit of hose on the end that fit over the bleed nippleUndo the bleed nipple 1/4 of a turn with syringe fitted overSlowly push down on the syringe to bleed the fulid throuhgAs you do this PUMP on the leaver slolwyOnce bled seal the bleed nipple offRemove the syringeFit top capWipe the brake offTake it and give it a wash in hot soapy water and give it a good scrubbingNow fit the pads againFit to the bikeIt should work spot on and be a better bleed than hopeYou can thank me latterEdit:opes way, page 9 item 3.3 PDF docOut of interest Pete, do you really find bleeding a hope from the bottom up to make much of a difference than the other, more conventional and hope recommended, top down way? Its just i find the conventional way much easier as you do not have to remove the brake, there is much less mess (no fluid coming out the resevoir, just the tube on the nipple) and therefore quicker. i have also never had a problem with it.Why do you believe it produces a better bleed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I find form the bottom up, the caliper traps a lot of air so the presure form the bottom get's it out, but i do it both ways. Just find the way i said means less messing about with the niipple going on and off every pump and then tipping in of fuild...all in one, 5 mins and it's done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) True, the one thing that i have noticed is that hope calipers trap a lot of air. Will have to try that sometime.I am tempted to get the hope bleed kit after using an easy bleed on my car, It pressurises the brake system so you just open the nipple and let it flow till your done, so quick and so easy, plus the extra pressure will help get out stubborn trapped air. Edited October 3, 2006 by nmt_oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I got one but i didn;t like it, i modified it to be used on my Maguras, boiling hot water really does clean them out nicely!Just changed the hose on there to one smaller to fit a barb, and a control valve on the air so i can control the flow! Just have to pump up the tyre before i use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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