Greeny Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 i thought of having a hope lever and body and running it to magura slaves/cylinders (HS33) would this be possible and would it work?thank you for your comments Greeny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbt Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 It should work fine, im sure ive seen a picture of this done before, not sure where, if i find it ill post a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) For it was I. Well me er and leeson Bikes many amoons ago.You need the following okay.Hope SPORT C2 Leaver (it's the only one that works)Barbe fittingo-ring x 2Fit the barb to the hoseFit the o-ring to the barb both of themFit it to leaver and do up tight, yesht eo-ring will split then need to make a good sealYOU CAN ONLY RUN WATER, ANYHTING ELES WILL KILL THE HOPR O KILL YOU MAGURA, MINERAL OIL WHAT SO EVER AMOUNT WILL KILL YOU HOPE SEALSI got bord of it and found a nice Magura! Fact i still have the leaver. Have add you to msn if you wana chat more dude Edited October 1, 2006 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 yes i am sure it was done also...i think that that amazing guy AKA 'clive leeson' made some for martyn ashton and i have some footage of him riding with them at the 04 bike show.max...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 What a load of bull. Ashton has a deal with Magura for brakes only in 04. The leavers are a lot older than that. 1995!!! Fact it was the 1st leaver hope had made for the 1st disc system.Clive modified his for his son Kris. Sorry guys but when you've been around as much as i have and have the contacts i do you'll know everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeny Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 how come you can only use that lever..you said 'only one that works'does this mean that its the only hope lever that will work with a magura or do u just think that this particular hope lever is the best and works the best if you get me...also can you use proper hope oil or royal blood?also if you can find a picture i would be very grateful thank you greeny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 how come you can only use that lever..you said 'only one that works'does this mean that its the only hope lever that will work with a magura or do u just think that this particular hope lever is the best and works the best if you get me...also can you use proper hope oil or royal blood?also if you can find a picture i would be very grateful thank you greenyThe Hope Sport C2 works only due to these reason only10mm piston, the movemnet and displacemnt this gives is the bear min to make Magura's work. 6mm thats used in a mini leaver will not move them.C2 is clossed as is a magura, O2 or mini are open and are self adjusting but not for Maguras!Seals in the slaves will die with Hope fuild which is DOT! Magura mineral oil or any mineral oil will make the Hope seals swell. Water only, it's light, thin, get in the system fully, doesn't kill any seals in ether items.I'll upload a pic latter if i can find one if not will have to dig the leaver out and get pics. Won't be till after dinenr as i just got in from a wine tasting thing with some mates.If you do not belive me go ask Clive Leeson and i think Alic did it too. Ashton has never ran this setup. He did back in the day have C2's on his Canondale with the Sport C2 leaver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) Sorry forgive my lack of hope knowledge but why can't you use the pro lever?(the vertical piston one) Edited October 2, 2006 by PaRtZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Piston doesn;t move as much and doesn;t give the same amount of displacement thats needed.Think it's also got smaller piston i think but it's mainly due to the displacement and the way the fittings are!Clive tried it.Though i have found a way cool mod for the Pro C2 leaver so im hunting a set of them down asap...not for magura use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 What a load of bull. Ashton has a deal with Magura for brakes only in 04. The leavers are a lot older than that. 1995!!! Fact it was the 1st leaver hope had made for the 1st disc system.Clive modified his for his son Kris. Sorry guys but when you've been around as much as i have and have the contacts i do you'll know everything.wowwwwwwwwwwwww......u really must know everything..you are god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I been in the MTB screen for years and years, Hope is owned by family, EBC is family run, I help Clive Leeson out and vice versa, use to get MBUK till they went gay and that had good info back in the day, TF use to be a good sorce of info form many memmebers but died now and i've experimented and am a fully qualifed park tool and act aproved trianed mechanic so i know my stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 EBC is family runHow are you related to EBC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 My Father, Uncle/Godfather (it's an odd one)I don't wana go into it as what is said by other memebers here about is reather anyoing, nasty, upseting and dam right rude and disgusting i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 his mum knows the persons who works in the cafeteria's daughters cousins son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 My MUM mate is no longer around, she passed away! Have you lot go no thoughs or anyhting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeny Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 ok thanks a lot guys and right pads seem's to know what he is on about so...wright pads could you get me a list of places were i could get all the stuff from to build this break.?also thank you everyone else i'm also interested to know what others think or if they have a better idea i'm hopefully going to have a braided bridge as well on rear cylinders thank you all again Greeny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Add me to msn or e-mail me dude. pjalchemist@aol.comI would highly recomend a hope braded hose kit off Tartybikes, it would work perfectly with it, in fact i'd say in all honestly it's all you should use. if you were to use said leaver make sure you tell tarty what fitting you need to go in the Hope leaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeny Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 what i would do is i would get all the stuff and send it all of to tarty and get them to build it me up. i don't think i would get all braided as it is a lot of money so i thought about just the bridge. but thank you anywayGreeny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I got a Magura bridge i think spear here...but can we take this off the forum now and chat directly about it mate? There a lot to do go on from this okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 i don't think i would get all braided as it is a lot of money so i thought about just the bridge. but thank you anywayGreenythe thing is, the hope hose makes it much easier to connect to the lever end as you can get the hope fitting. magura hose is thinner than hope hose, so doesnt work as well, although std hope hose is IMO better than maggie hose, braided best off all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsey Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 wrights i can see how hard you have been trying to get validated... why arnt you? there must be a reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 One word: History Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Issue that lies with Danny and Tom from about 4 years ago when the forum had just come out kinda thing.Something over time has way too many people stick there nise into and make storys up form and what not.Too many storys about things to thing i haven't done which can be proven very easyerly.Tom and Danny have never aproached me to resovle any of it.I did meet Tom i think it was or maybe John once @ DJ ride directly after his funeral and was told it'd be all sorted and put back but thats what nearly 3 years on!Ah well celave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeny Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 ok i see what you mean just looks like i will have to save a little longer as i don't think a new hope lever would be cheap. were abouts could i get one of these from what wright pads is talking about?Thank you Greeny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 You can't 2nd hand only as they are no longer made but as i said i've one here at home no longer in use going but you'll need to chat to me on msn or e-mail about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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