Desions On Frames

[Saracen Kid]

ive got 3 offers on frames:

onza t-rex £199.99 (tarty)

heatsink 26'' £199.99 (heatsink)

a 2nd hand coust V2 with headset, bb,4bolt mounts and 4 bolt bolts £250.00 (wright pads)

thanks guys

Edited September 29, 2006 by t-pro kid

[Ben Beckett]

you could have put this inside your other 'frame again' topic, to stop clogging NMC up with loads of pointless/un-needed posts.

anyway.......i would rather go for the t-rex over the heatsink because imo it is stronger and looks nicer.

but i have never seen a 'coust v2' so if they are good then i would most likely choose that over the t-rex!!

someone post a link in here of a picture of the coust v2,

cheers

[Orgun_Donor]

Yea but Pete Wrights Coust, isnt a Coust at all, its something else resprayed and the coust stickers put on it. And also has a load of dents and sctracths in it.

[Wright Pads]

Oh boys if your going to use my name full, use it f**king right and in full.

Peter Wright

When the f**k did you become mr expert all of a f**king suden Darren??

It has some huge dents ahy, so does yours so your no better mate! It's totaly sound and strucaly safe!

Coust V2 in battleship Gray, Coust team red stickers, FSA Pig, Truative ISIS BB, 4 bolts mounts and bolts.

I'm ordering today off tarty bikes so i could get you a mech hnager if you wanted me to as it's not got one right now and plate i made so i could run a mech.

£250 delivered!

Also am selling the full bike as i have a new bike on the way

Edited September 29, 2006 by Wright Pads

[Ben Beckett]

yep!!!

DEFINATELY THE COUST OVER THE T-REX!!!!!!!

cheers 'wright pads'

lmao, nice brake set up in pic 3 (down).

setting brakes up is so annoying, especially when they move.lol

Edited September 29, 2006 by ben beckett

[Wright Pads]

Was a bosh i just found the bolts up to take pics as was in process of sorting my wheel out as it was over to one side a bit!

[Orgun_Donor]

Oh boys if your going to use my name full, use it f**king right and in full.

Peter Wright

When the f**k did you become mr expert all of a f**king suden Darren??

It has some huge dents ahy, so does yours so your no better mate! It's totaly sound and strucaly safe!

Coust V2 in battleship Gray, Coust team red stickers, FSA Pig, Truative ISIS BB, 4 bolts mounts and bolts.

I'm ordering today off tarty bikes so i could get you a mech hnager if you wanted me to as it's not got one right now and plate i made so i could run a mech.

£250 delivered!

Also am selling the full bike as i have a new bike on the way

Why dont you take a pic of the other chain stay where the disc mount was ground off. Cant remember for the love of me what the frame is, I know you told me before but i cant remember now.

But this is not a Coust V2 as he is advertising it

[Wright Pads]

What disc mount, you can't see shit and i'm not in Plymouth today i'm Swindon picking up my next lot of work and sorting a big issues out i come across.

I'll try tonight when i get home! Probs be 9ish pm

Oh and when did i tell you such?? Rather others i belive!

Edited September 29, 2006 by Wright Pads

[Luke Rainbird]

It has some huge dents ahy, so does yours so your no better mate! It's totaly sound and strucaly safe!

Coust V2 in battleship Gray, Coust team red stickers, FSA Pig, Truative ISIS BB, 4 bolts mounts and bolts.

£250 delivered!

Wright, first things first...

It may be structurally sound, but yes, there are some pretty savage dents on the downtube. In fact, I seem to remember you knocking it last night and saying something along the lines of "Ah well, it can't get much worse"

Also, Darren isn't trying to sell his frame, so whether his DT is dented/scratched or whatever is pretty irrelevant really, in the grand scheme of things

What disc mount, you can't see shit and i'm not in Plymouth today i'm Swindon picking up my next lot of work and sorting a big issues out i come across.

Oh and when did i tell you such?? Rather others i belive!

Also, I've heard you say a few times during rides that it is some other frame just powder coated with coust stickers on. Can't remember what it actually is, but just advertise it as whatever that might be, rather than something it's not.

[Wright Pads]

Yeah i did touch the downtube last night but no marks or dents on it, checked when i got home last night in the front room!

Downtube is thick as!

I've passed coment about the sticker and paint that be all.

It's the sny shitty little coments all the time off you too, on here, msn, rides.

It aint needed even though TF is the bitches place online and ride is ment to be chileld and laugh

[Tylerlovesalex]

hmmm temper temper boys don't get your kinkers in a twist lol

[Luke Rainbird]

Yeah i did touch the downtube last night but no marks or dents on it, checked when i got home last night in the front room!

Downtube is thick as!

I've passed coment about the sticker and paint that be all.

It's the sny shitty little coments all the time off you too, on here, msn, rides.

It aint needed even though TF is the bitches place online and ride is ment to be chileld and laugh

No, you have definately commented about it not being a coust frame on numerous occasions

Also; What?! Shitty comments such as...?

If we're going to go to technicalities then you may not have put another mark on the downtube, however what you said at the time was said, as I'm sure Al, Darren, Tyler all probably heard too.

All I'm trying to say is sell it as whatever it is, rather than something it's not. You wonder why you have the reputation you do on this forum, yet if you don't make clear whatever it is you may be selling to someone, or try to pass information off as your own when it's not, then it's really no surprise is it?

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ive got 3 offers on frames:

onza t-rex £199.99 (tarty)

heatsink 26'' £199.99 (heatsink)

a 2nd hand coust V2 with headset, bb,4bolt mounts and 4 bolt bolts £250.00 (wright pads)

thanks guys

Sorry, completely got sidetracked.

In order to help, rather than just clog up the thread with fairly relevant stuff that nobody wants (last time we got into something like this on MSN Prawn and myslef just got blocked, oh the shame...):

I'd say go for one of the other two!

The T-Rex is the more tried and tested of the two, and seems pretty good from the reviews I've heard.

Heatsink always seem to be very popular with the customers that have bought from them though, so don't rule out the 'sink by any means.

Your best bet is probably to try and find somebody with a T-rex and give it a try, note what you like and dislike, and compare that with what you think/people say the Heatsink is like (It's not so likely somebody close to you will have one to test as the 'Rex)

EDIT: Right, just had a quick look at the Geo for the frames and it lines up like this:

T-Rex; 1080wb, 380cs, 72ha, 2.5kg

'Sink; 1085wb, 385cs, 71ha, 2.1kg

Basically, these frames are pretty similar, although the stays on the Heatsink should make it slightly more stable on the back wheel (although a touch harder to get there)

The slacker head angle will make the steering a little slower, although not really by a noticable amount as far as I would imagine.

Oh, and there's 400g less (going on the quoted weights on the Tarty and Heatsink sites)

To me, it would seem that unless you feel the slight differences will make your decision swing one way or the other, it's more a matter of which you prefer the look of!

Edited September 29, 2006 by rideside

[Orgun_Donor]

Pete we ride with you, and your a sound guy. But the dent in your DT is massive, and it might well be stuctually sound, but it does have bigger and more dents then the tiny few in mine. And I still remember the first day i met you, you asked me if it looked like a coust(which i had no idea what they looked like then) and you commented on how you removed the rear disc mount and resprayed the frame, and then put new coust stickers on it. IF your going to sell something and you falsely advertise it, not only could it land you in serious trouble but could also hurt the guy your selling it to. I do believe honesty is the est policy when it comes to selling stuff. So stop playing us for idiots, tis a shame i cant get hold of Alex to behonest!

[Walleee]

there were a bunch of coust copies made which had disk mount's on them and no cousts stickers. I guess this is what pete has?

Are you asking £250 for the full bike or for the frame with BB headset and mounts? If it's the latter it's a total rip off really expecially in it's condition.....

[Conor the basher.]

i seen that coust on ebay never got anybids stayed at 200 u could have got it for 215 if u would have arranged a coriour delivery go for the heat sink m8 and it was for the whole bike on ebay that exact one

[Wright Pads]

What you need a 14 year old boy to back up what you saying. Thats low and crap man.

I haven't said anyhting differnt to whats already been spoken to me of on MSN!

I'm not the one the done any hard mods to it. I got it repasayed as the color was nasty and the job done was badly done!

You didnt get blocked, i was at work Luke, i have my own personal pc's i use and i use the one moniter, keybord and mouse and i use a KVM switch to swap between them as it's not easy to have 5+ rigs running in my flat!

I havent said what this frame is it's been asked of me and the convo on msn is very odd!

Anyway i have work to be getting on with so i shall return latter on

[Luke Rainbird]

i seen that coust on ebay never got anybids stayed at 200 u could have got it for 215 if u would have arranged a coriour delivery go for the heat sink m8 and it was for the whole bike on ebay that exact one

Yeah Pete put it on ebay a while ago starting at £200 for the full bike

It may be one of the coust copies as jake1516 suggested, I just wish I could remember for sure!

[Tylerlovesalex]

alex is 15 nearly 16 just thought i would state that ha ha ha lol he he

[Wright Pads]

Yes i know it was on Ebay ooo how observent arnt you my son! Get on!

Full bike it was and starting price was £200 not full bike!

It was removed in fact. I removed it!

[Luke Rainbird]

1 - What you need a 14 year old boy to back up what you saying. Thats low and crap man.

2 - I'm not the one the done any hard mods to it. I got it repasayed as the color was nasty and the job done was badly done!

3 - You didnt get blocked, i was at work Luke, i have my own personal pc's i use and i use the one moniter, keybord and mouse and i use a KVM switch to swap between them as it's not easy to have 5+ rigs running in my flat!

4 - I havent said what this frame is it's been asked of me and the convo on msn is very odd!

5 - Anyway i have work to be getting on with so i shall return latter on

1 - Alex has lived and ridden in Plymouth for however long, and knows you better than Me and Darren put together. How is it low and crap in any way, shape or form? Unless Darren was up to other things with Al (Which he better not be, he's mine...) then shut up!

2 - You say that as if you know of somebody who has done some "hard mods" to it. And I definately recall you saying on several occasions that you had ground the disc mount off at least (whether you meant "you" as yourself or an affiliate I cannot be certain of. Sue me and make another million)

3 - Pete, Prawn had been blocked, me and Al could see you were online, he couldn't. I was then blocked, Prawn and Al saw you were online.

You then disappeared offline when we got talking and you couldn't think up a bullshit excuse for something quick enough (see, I STILL haven't said anything about 'Project Pete's new frame' on TF)

Oops...

4 - If it's been asked, why haven't you told?

5 - Thought you'd made your million, then sold Devon Cycles and god knows what else? Surely work can wait a few more minutes 'til you sort this out?

Yes i know it was on Ebay ooo how observent arnt you my son! Get on!

Full bike it was and starting price was £200 not full bike!

It was removed in fact. I removed it!

What?

Use some punctuation to make it a little clearer...

The FULL BIKE was on ebay.

The STARTING PRICE was £200.

At no point did the advert say that the starting bid of £200 was not for the full bike (if i decrypted your warble rightly)

Anyway, back to the job in hand...

[Orgun_Donor]

What you need a 14 year old boy to back up what you saying. Thats low and crap man.

So just cause he is younger, means that it negates his knowledge? Only reason im trying to get hold of him is cause im pretty sure he will know exactly what frame this is. If not i need to arrange the next meeting with his ....... sorry Al

You can see on he left hand side where the Disc mount has been ground off, might not show in a picture but is easily noticable in person, specially when running your hand over it.

Also to the topic starter, personally i wouldn't buy a 2nd hand frame(no matter who is selling it, be it pete, tarty who ever), you never know hat they have done on it in the past, or how its been treated. I havent ridden the sink or the onza, but they are both trust worthy brands, just need to find geometry you want on your bike!

[craigjames]

woh this is gettin a bit hostile!! in my opnion if it is a genuine coust, its still a brutally dented coust and £250 is a lot for a heavily dented frame even if it does have other bits.

so really its between the onza and the sink

the sink will be slightly easier to move around on the rear wheel and is a fair chunk lighter going on what the websites say they weigh.

the onza is a tried and tested beast, heavy but pretty damn solid.

i think either frame would be fine, buts suggested find somebody whos got either bike and see what they ride like in your own mind.

i dont think you'd have any issues with either frame thats for sure

craig

[Luke Rainbird]

woh this is gettin a bit hostile!!

in my opnion if it is a genuine coust, its still a brutally dented coust and £250 is a lot for a heavily dented frame even if it does have other bits

Yeah, once again sorry for this taking over the thread, it just seems to me that the topic starter should know what the actual situation was.

Pete seems like a fairly sound guy most of the time when I've ridden with him, but online he just seems to be quite different!

Maybe it just comes across differently online, a lot of stuff does.

Personally, after reading a few sites and checking a few specs/pictures, I'd go for the Heatsink. It may be a lesser used frame from a smaller brand, however from the few times I've talked to Steve about things he seems completely sound, a top bloke, so you shouldn't have any issues with him over anything. I'm sure his service will easily equal that of Onza, or even Tartybikes!

If I were you, I'd go for the Heatsink over the T-Rex, unless the styling of the Onza is more to your preferance.

Take a look around for some full-built Heatsinks, and you'll see what I mean. Lovely!

[Tylerlovesalex]

like every one has said don't buy 2nd hand your just asking for trouble the t-rex seems a little stronger but also is a little more heavy then the sink it depends on what you prefer you need to try them out to be sure don't just buy one or the other with out trying them is alot of money to waste if you don't like the ride at the end of it hope this helps mate good luck!

[Mr Monty]

It is a fake coust you can see where the disc mounts have been grounded of and thes is still the cable holder for the disc and garry and mat have both owend it and they both said it is fake. but it is the same geo as the coust and just as strong so i don't see a reason not to get it