JT! Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 How can a ridgid carbon fork replace 100mm sus forks? Anyway, too heavy pour trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Belive the weight is on the newest ones with white writing Jon.They can be made to be 400/410mm long as this replaces a sus forkThere an ally stera which is press fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 I'm happy with this info i just got in an e-mailHi Pete, I did reply to your enquiry, but I think it bounced back for some reason? Max recommended disc size is 180mm, weight is 970g, crown and d.outs are forged alloy, steerer is cro-mo. Dom. Manager/DesignerKinesis UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 I'm happy with this info i just got in an e-mailHi Pete, I did reply to your enquiry, but I think it bounced back for some reason? Max recommended disc size is 180mm, weight is 970g, crown and d.outs are forged alloy, steerer is cro-mo. Dom. Manager/DesignerKinesis UK.970 isnt too bad. dave butler told me that dannys forks arent that light but are very strong. so maybe if these forks have nice geo they might bo ok, they seem pretty heavy duty. especially compaired to the pace. and wayne ran them for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yep i know the ones he has. Got a laod of pics i took in the back of his car of them!380mm long are his!I'm awaiting a reply on them off Dom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yeah, but 100mm forks have 100mm of suspension. Those forks have 0mm of suspention. See what i'm getting at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 A std 100mm sus forks is set at 400m in it's length if my memory serves me correctly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Think it's a little longer than 400mm actually, although not certain.Most trials forks are somewhere in the region of 400 (well, little under) aren't they?*measures Ashtons/'zocchis* Ashtons - 390mmMarzocchis (120mm travel) - 480mmMeasured centre of axle to top of crown race (where they meet the bottom of the headset) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 380mm long are his!Pete Wright is bloody Yoda! Now it makes sense, he's actually a misunderstood genius!Helium filled these tubes are. Rewelded is my Crescent, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 A std 100mm sus forks is set at 400m in it's length if my memory serves me correctly!Didn't even notice that first time round... Would take a little more than 100mm travel for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 A std 100mm sus forks is set at 400m in it's length if my memory serves me correctly!No, what i mean is, how can u change a sus fork for a ridgid fork. It won't go up and down when u hit rocks and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 I do believe what Peter meant, but failed to get across too well (as is all too common) is that for people looking to run rigids on a frame designed to take sus forks, you need something with a bit more length to make up for the loss of travel, hence a longer fork is used.To try using a rigid as a sus fork, well, only Pete could manage that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 400mm long and exactly same weight as Fatty R's so shut it!My fatty is at 905gr with starnut and 195mm steertube... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 (edited) yeah mine are 950g and mine measure as 385mm long from axle to top of crown lmao, im sure thell send a test pair out to you pete...there wank, i NO they will snap thats just what carbon forks do, there too longeven the imfamous coust forks snap, and they weigh a fair bit me thinks Edited September 27, 2006 by Davetrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Well they sound tons better than Paces, okay weight wise there a bit more, fact lots more but they have some really good points too them like the forged alloy dropouts and crown! I snaped a few paces ones. You could always replace the co-mo streere with an alloy one!It's the geo when they say replacemnt! So what ever the dropout to crown race length is on a sus forks is what the Xmax will be! I'm on a big e-mail quest today sadly so soon a si hear anyhting i'll wack it up her.Oh and Dom is a good bloke, meet him at manny events! Upgrade are the UK Importers where Dom is so whom knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer4all2 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 ohhh yes...really nice forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 sounds a bit stupidly heavy to me could probly get steel forks for that weight and they would feel stiff i also dont like the idea that the forks cost that much and they have still forged the alloy bits for that much realy you should be looking at CNCing as casting will b weak as hell right? and wont they just not give you any warning and just go bang arrghhhh carbon in my eyes i dont spose i will know anless i rode a set might well have a lush feel to it.ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Casting is weak and thats what Pace do!These are cold froged, so the alloy is put under uber extream presure and forced into that shape cold, no heat aplied this making them stronger!Carbon does give loads of warning, the top coat of resin if done correctly, will crack, peal, liner as it's called. oit shoud show lots of shins and i think these will.It's the right type of weave on the carbon i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Okay i've had the full and fnal confermation of it all now at last!!!Max recommended disc size is 180mmWeight is 970gCrown and dropouts are forged alloySteerer is cro-mo. Center of dropout to crown is 443mm£129.99 RRP £99.99 on most online shops via googleSo there 43mm longer than a std fork! Out comes the IPA, Hacksaw, Everypaper, Cutting block, Wesy System 402 & 507Get them down to 400mm and rebond them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Correct me if i'm wrong.(Which is very likely)But isn't carbon only strong in one direction. As in the way it is formed.This is going way back into GCSE chemistry though, so it could be completley wrong.Don't look bad i spose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakley Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 danny butlers forks are the shizwack, they arent that heavy and are strong as f**k!!!!and they are not coust forks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Nope it's all down to the weave and layers, twine is the best and so is twill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Fried Rice Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 am i suppose to be amazed?or am i missing something? JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Okies... a steel fork will be much much better than this. Why? Because if you hit that leg with a sharp object (assuming it's not reinforced) it will crack and probably fall into pieces. Carbon fibre is strong and stiff but hit it with something sharp and that's the end of it. So here you get heavy and vulnerable forks, Pace at least is light. Whats the point? The sidehop WC weighs less edit: didn't read the previous post, if they weigh 970g, that's just about acceptable. Edited September 28, 2006 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Correct me if i'm wrong.(Which is very likely)But isn't carbon only strong in one direction. As in the way it is formed.This is going way back into GCSE chemistry though, so it could be completley wrong.Don't look bad i spose.It is tubular, so it will be strong in all directions. And perhaps you are thinking about raw weave, as opposed to weave that has been coated in resin?However these are not as strong, more expensive, worse geo and heavier than most decent trials forks,thus making them completley pointless from a trials perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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