Autism

[Radfax]

On a completely different note, I did not know that Autism/Asperger's was this common - It seems like most people here know someone with it, or have at least met someone.

Thats what i started this thread for TOmm and i didnt not exspect to get this many replies i didnt expect to get any replys at all. I have only ever met one other lad with a aultistic brother and he was at my collage doing carpentry, still see him now. I didnt know so many people were aware of it but its pretty nice to know that quite a lot of people do know about this condition and i hope this thread makes them think of how aultism effects people who are close to them like families carers teachers ect and that they will just show some respect to these people which yo will be supprised at how many people dont.

Sorry if that sounded all gobbeldy gook.

And on another note just to have a quick rant, I dont know if any of you have seen or heard but politicians or some one like that thinks that all specialist unit school for people with Aultism, Asperger's, Downsyndrome, seribal pause (SP?) ect ect should all me introduced into main streem school and that they should learn to live and work in main streem schools. I am not being funny but this man needs to be shot!!! How can he expect people with learning difficulties to learn in mainsteem schools where they will most likely be ridiculed and outkasted for some thing wihich is not their faulght. he also says he wants to cut back on learning difficulties staff as he said it is not fair for some kids to get more attention that otheres. But i am sorry this is probably the biggest load of crap i have ever heard. Would just like to know your veiws.

Tom

[Fishy]

I totally agree with you there, the government really do piss me off when they say shit like that. A lad i used to know had Autism, lived down the road from me. A really cool guy actually, he only had it mild though, he was made by his parents to attend a special needs school, when he was quite happy at the school i went to.

[Radfax]

some people with mild Aultism ect can deal with main stream schools but i think trying to intergrate EVERY child with leaning difficulties of any sort is just way to extreme.

Tomm

[crazy_gap girl]

My nephew has it and we actually thought it was something to do with the MMR injection as before he had that his eyes were perfectly streight and after he had the injection his eyes became wonky.... although he was starved of oxygen in birth so it could be alot of things to do with been born and the first few months of life

Hes 13 i think now and hes totally obsessed with WWF.... and he doesnt really understand right or wrong that well... and hates change of routine, as they like a routine

[Radfax]

Aultism has some thing to do with the blood flow to a cerian part of the brain being restricted (some part at the front?) which may have been caused with the starvation of oxygen? This is what i have been told but i am hoping Tomm can correct me on that front?

My family and quite a few familes of aultistic childer strongly suspect that the MMR injection has some thing to do with the causes of aultism i am not to sure what why and how but some people think it has a lot to do with aultism.

My brother has a thing with a routine aswell, everything has to be on time there and then and if it isnt there then its the end of the world. I find this pretty hard because there is nothing you can do about it or anything you can do in their eyes to make the situation better for them. But it also effect our likes mine my brothers and my mums, we cannot go to certian places go a certian route to some where go to certian places ect. You may be thinking well why dont you just do it? he has got to get used to getting things he doesnt want but this is the thing. Its a lot more trouble than its worth, if things dont go how they are suposed to then its the end of the world, you may also be thinking that he is a spoilt child but its not this at all, can probably not understand the situation unless you have been there.

Because of this i have NEVER been abroad, i have never had a holiday outside of england before (apart from a day trip i had with Rob on here once over to france). we cannot travel in the car to far we cannot get on a plane we cannot go to certian places and so on because its a lot more trouble than its worth. but thankfully i should be going to spain and Mexico with my loverly girlfriend next year which i cannot wait for. But i am just saying that living with people who suffer from aultism also affect how people around them live their lifes.

Tom

Edited September 24, 2006 by Radfax

[Lee Cable]

And on another note just to have a quick rant, I dont know if any of you have seen or heard but politicians or some one like that thinks that all specialist unit school for people with Aultism, Asperger's, Downsyndrome, seribal pause (SP?) ect ect should all me introduced into main streem school and that they should learn to live and work in main streem schools. I am not being funny but this man needs to be shot!!! How can he expect people with learning difficulties to learn in mainsteem schools where they will most likely be ridiculed and outkasted for some thing wihich is not their faulght. he also says he wants to cut back on learning difficulties staff as he said it is not fair for some kids to get more attention that otheres. But i am sorry this is probably the biggest load of crap i have ever heard. Would just like to know your veiws.

Tom

Dude, i totally know what you mean. When i was younger, i was bullied like mad. I dont have nothing wrong with me. Bullies wouldnt be able to understand a new concept in there lives, so they would bully more people. E.g. with autism, down syndrome and aspergers.

One of my cousins who lives in america, has quite bad down syndrome, she is 27, still lives with her parents but is totally obsessed with badminton. Shes is amazing. I thought i was good at badminton, she came over...and butchered me..15-11. It wasnt the fact that she had down syndrome which shocked me, its the fact that shes a girl and she beat me . Afterward's i found out she plays for the south carolina disabled team...When she was born, her parents where told that she wouldnt live to be a teenager..

Most amazing person i have ever met

Lee

[JT!]

I'm sure i have something wrong with me. No idea what, but there's something there.

Interesting read.

[Tomm]

Aultism has some thing to do with the blood flow to a cerian part of the brain being restricted (some part at the front?) which may have been caused with the starvation of oxygen? This is what i have been told but i am hoping Tomm can correct me on that front?

Could be. I have no idea really, and I don't think anyone really does, see HERE. Very complicated stuff and not really worth reading unless you're really interested. Basically it says there are loads of theories and very few actual facts about it. The one fact is that Aspergers/Autistic people have bigger brains. I personally think that it's just a difference in how people think, in much the same way that we all have different interests and ways of thinking. Asperger's or whatever is just one end of a spectrum (that's the neurodiversity theory btw).

The MMR thing is a load of crap. Fair enough people are over-protective of their babies but there's so much evidence saying that MMR has nothing to do with autism, and one trial that suggested that there might be a risk. But now everyone's heard about it, everyone with a child with autism says "Oh yes, it's because of the MMR", when every single child that age had the MMR. If you do enough studies, you're bound (by chance) to find something that you think is a link, but it just happened by chance. And now loads of babies are at risk of measles, mumps and rubella. Madness.

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

Kind of irrelevant but I have OCD, certain things I do have to be done in a certain order because (this sounds stupid) but im scared doing them in the wrong way will lead to bad things happening.

Not so bad now but when I was younger it was lot worse

[Radfax]

Kind of irrelevant but I have OCD, certain things I do have to be done in a certain order because (this sounds stupid) but im scared doing them in the wrong way will lead to bad things happening.

Not so bad now but when I was younger it was lot worse

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I used to be EXACTLY the same mate, before i went to bed i had to do a certian routine otherwise i thought bad things would happen, stupidly silly things but i was so scared and it became so over possesive, i didnt stay around anyones house for around a year maybe even two at that!

[Rich Pearson]

I have a kind of wierd type of OCD not in the sense that I have a certain routine that I have to stick with (far from it...) but that if I do certain things, like putting a pen lid down on a desk, it has to be put down at a ceratin (totally random) angle, so if it doesn't end up at that angle I have to move it or something bad will happen, but then I get in mess because I've thought about it happening so have to do something about it, but then I think that I shouldn't because I've thought about it. It's like putting my gloves on when I ride or rolling a cigarette, stuff has to happen the right way or I get really irritated by it.

Lee Dainton from Dirty Sanchez talks about this in EXACTLY the same way on one of the shows which is what got me thinking about it.

Rich

[A!!]

I have a kind of wierd type of OCD not in the sense that I have a certain routine that I have to stick with (far from it...) but that if I do certain things, like putting a pen lid down on a desk, it has to be put down at a ceratin (totally random) angle, so if it doesn't end up at that angle I have to move it or something bad will happen, but then I get in mess because I've thought about it happening so have to do something about it, but then I think that I shouldn't because I've thought about it. It's like putting my gloves on when I ride or rolling a cigarette, stuff has to happen the right way or I get really irritated by it.

Lee Dainton from Dirty Sanchez talks about this in EXACTLY the same way on one of the shows which is what got me thinking about it.

Rich

Ye i have seen that bit on the Dirty Sanchez dvd where he is on about how he brushes his teeth, and if he does it slightly different he has to stop and start again, i think he was on about when he puts forks down on tables too and if he puts it at a wrong angle he has to walk back and put it right.

I notice my self doing it at odd times, but it is usually when i see something on the side i feel the need to line it up or make it straight, it doesn't happen very often though.

[Rich Pearson]

Ye i have seen that bit on the Dirty Sanchez dvd where he is on about how he brushes his teeth, and if he does it slightly different he has to stop and start again, i think he was on about when he puts forks down on tables too and if he puts it at a wrong angle he has to walk back and put it right.

I notice my self doing it at odd times, but it is usually when i see something on the side i feel the need to line it up or make it straight, it doesn't happen very often though.

Thats the bad boy! I remember him talking about it, just couldn't remember the subject matter entirely.

Rich

[Josephine]

I'm sure i have something wrong with me. No idea what, but there's something there.

Interesting read.

Joe's diagnosis: Hyperchondriac

Joe x

(this post is meant in good fun)

Edited October 1, 2006 by Josephine