The Pedal Up...

[Odinpalen]

I have watched a ton of video in slow motion on this skill but I just cannot seem to get it totally correct.

I always find that when I do the 1 3/4 stroke and try to jump. I pull on the handle bars too hard and the back wheel shoots forward.

I mean if the front wheel is comming up from the stroke, there is almost no torque to pull your center of mass forward and up?

Confused, but close therefore frustrated.

[nafan]

I do 3/4 pedal strokes and it does not work if you jump.

What you have to do is pedal very quickly, to launch the bike up under you, then extend your arms as it comes through. I can only pedal up about 30 inches but find it much easier just pedalling faster...

Don't know if this helps but good luck

Nathan

EDIT: Try to get your front wheel as high as possible, it is easier to push the bike forwards than it is to lift it up under you...

Edited September 15, 2006 by nafan

[Tomm]

You're probably not jumping enough. You don't need any "torque" or anything from the bike to push you forwards. The purpose of the pedaling is just to bring the front up and to go forwards - To actually get any height you have to jump. If you haven't already, I'd suggest learning proper bunny hops first. It's basically the same technique but you need longer run ups

[Odinpalen]

So are you saying basically the pedal up is a manual with a jumping motion after the stroke?

I just find it hard to jump up when my feet are in front of me and not under me, that is why I feel I must pull back on the handle bars.

I can do the pedal up at times, but I am kinda guessing when I do it. I wish I could tape myself and just show you video so you could see what I am doing wrong.

[mtbjosh]

i say it to people by saying, you use the force and momentum of your pedal stroke to help you propel yourself upwards, as soon as youve pedal stroked you need to throw your bike infront of you and upwards, the more power and body movement you put into it, the higher you can go, hope that helps you understand it more

or as i said to someone else, the very last movement of your stroke is used as a sort of big back hop, you use the last pedal motion as your way of pastying up

Edited September 15, 2006 by mtbjosh

[Mark W]

From OTN...

Pedal-up

Roll at the wall like you mean it. Focus on where you wanna land. Bad foot at about the 12 o'clock position.

As you get nearer the wall, start pedalling hard, whilst crouching down over the bars, ready to spring up.

As you pull up and your good foot comes round to the top of the stroke, start really throwing your body up, and lifting the bars up hard with your arms.

Extend your body vertically, meaning you can suck the bike up underneath you higher. Just spring up super hard, whilst still pulling the bars hard.

Throw the bars forwards once the front's cleared the wall fully, and bring the back of the bike up with your hips, knees and ankles. Just suck it up

That should do it, really...

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[Tomm]

I just find it hard to jump up when my feet are in front of me and not under me, that is why I feel I must pull back on the handle bars.

Well, you wanna be starting the jump when your feet are below you anyway. You shouldn't really be leaning or jumping backwards at all - it's not a wheelie. Just jump straight up and rely on your forwards momentum to get the distance. You can see that in Mark's pictures - the only one where he is leaning off the back of the bike is the last one - and that's because it's a pretty big wall. Momentum will carry him forwards onto the wall properly, but that's probably not something you need to worry about until you get the timing right.

So are you saying basically the pedal up is a manual with a jumping motion after the stroke?

No, I wouldn't say it's manual then jump. It's much more fluid than that - you should be throwing your weight up at the same time as pedalling. The two pics below show what I mean. You can see that in the first one, Mark is quite crouched. In the second one he has jumped quite a lot, even though he hasn't finished the pedal rotation completely.

As you pull up and your good foot comes round to the top of the stroke, start really throwing your body up, and lifting the bars up hard with your arms.

[TrashZen]

I'd say it is the motion of a bunny hop (body movement in a wave), but completely assisted with a pedal kick, so you are never in freewheel, but always controlling your speed with the acceleration of the kick.

At the end, you jump off while still pedaling.

Hope this helps.

I'll be putting up some some slow motion vids later on... in a distant future

I'll try to update this page, maybe it is too bleak for the moment.

[Odinpalen]

Thanks guys, I do believe I understand where I have been falling short in technique.

I think it is going to be tuff to jump and stroke at the same time. ( Ahem... we are talking Trials here...)

Edited September 20, 2006 by Odinpalen

[Concussion]

If I may butt in.............

I ride a Trex / 100mm stem/ flat bars (feels long etc), can't manual it / can't bunny hop it. Is this move lost on me cause I is having problems with this move?

[poopipe]

If I may butt in.............

I ride a Trex / 100mm stem/ flat bars (feels long etc), can't manual it / can't bunny hop it. Is this move lost on me cause I is having problems with this move?

not lost at all - the technique will just be a little different depending on your bike.

eg..

Julien tends to lift the front right off the ground with his wrong foot before the stamp and jump - he has a very long bike.

I just unweight the front a bit with my wrong foot (like in mark's pics), it barely leaves the ground before i do the stamp - i ride a mod.

[planet x alan]

i find, that if your riding a shorter bike you can get a lot higher without stamping on the pedal. like an abubbaca or fuffanu (blunt in bmx language).

but yeah, if your on a longer bike you will need to put the pedal down.