trials_noob Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 I am now comfortable on backwheel and want to go about leanring the pedal kick and have read all the online guides and i know what i have to do. I was just wondering if anyone has any tips and or methods to aid learning?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 You could try kicking maybe that would work.With your back brake off.Then press it to land.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 What that guy said ^^^Good practice to get into is pre-engaging, that is to say that you put slight pressure on your front foot before you let the brake off in order to put the chain tight against the engagement and make the kick instant when you release the brake. This'll increase the life of your chain and freewheel/hub, if you're not doing it properly you'll hear a sound like a really big rubber band being twanged when you kick.Just start out gently, teensy little kicks, you don't even need to come off the floor!Joe x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) What that guy said ^^^Good practice to get into is pre-engaging, that is to say that you put slight pressure on your front foot before you let the brake off in order to put the chain tight against the engagement and make the kick instant when you release the brake. This'll increase the life of your chain and freewheel/hub, if you're not doing it properly you'll hear a sound like a really big rubber band being twanged when you kick.Just start out gently, teensy little kicks, you don't even need to come off the floor!Joe xHe's right, sometimes it helps if you teach people to get onto the back wheel then let go of the brake and do a little push on the pedals in order to roll forwards a little bit. In a nut-shell:Get onto back wheel....Place a bit of force onto the forwards peddle with the brake still on, this will engage the hub.....Lower the bars a tad....Let go of the brake and put a little bit more force onto the forwards peddle at the same time as pulling on the bars slightly....Re-apply the brake after you've moved a couple of inches.Get the hang of that and you'll be used to the timings of when to release the brake kick the pedals and re-apply the brake. Then to move on and actual hop all you have to do is jump a little bit with your legs as your pulling on the bars/kicking on the pedals.Enjoy Edited September 15, 2006 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebJT Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 The best way to learn the kicking and brake coordination is to do it on two wheels.Ride along stop with the back brake, then let go of the brake and kick/pedal forard a bit and then reapply the brake. Keep trying this until you shunt forward repeatedly. Then try it on the back wheel.Seb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 i found it was easist to learn it towards a small object,for example a curb or small wall.the main fear with learning to pedal-kick is whipping out, so by doing it towards something it'll stop the bike whipping out and give you that extra bit of confidence.so my advice is to back hop facing towards a curb, then lower the front a little and at the same time let of the back brake and kick towards the curb, then re-apply the brake.its all in the timing, which is something you can only learn by attempting it over and over and over.eventually you'll just do it without thinking about it at all, but the first few ettampts will be pretty brain taxing, i.e, you'll find yourself thinking it through in you head before you do it, and concentrating on each part, but that's also a good thing, as it'll mean your brain should figure it out quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 ^^^ that way if you do whip it out i'll bounce off the curb fly in the air and land in your face Go for the wall one, its all good advice in this topic i can't add nothing but to say go for the wall instead of the curb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Thanks for all the help guys, i've finally cracked how to do realatively small pedal hops.I took a small video (bad quality due to using phone) and was wondering if anyone could give me any pointers? Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Pull on the bars more, stamp on the pedals harder and jump higher. The more experience you get the easier it will become, thing is your just going to have to practise.If you want to get up the curb properly start your hop roughly one wheels length away from it and then once yuo can do it easily everytime try an inch or two further away. Maybe put a chalk line onto the road so you have some sort of line to line up to to ensure you gap consistently.Just keep at it and you'll find it much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 i think you need to move your arse down a bit and relax.You're being quite hasty about it all which is causing you to tighten up and lose balance. Once you land from a hop try to stay balanced long enough to have a proper think and prepare for the next one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 i wud say, the major problem, is you will be scared of falling over backwards!so just wheely over backward with no rear brake to start with, land on the floor on your arse.no that bad at all really, now learn it !!with no fear !iolo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Don't worry i'm not scared about falling backwards, i've done it a lot and practised going over on purpose. I think poopipe is right as i feel i am too tense.Anyway thanks for all the pointers, best thing now is to go and practise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 It's important not to get stuck in a rhythm as well, hop when you need to and not before, otherwise you'll be bouncing all over the place. You're looking pretty good so far. To push the distances out you'll need to drop the bars a lot more before you hop and really pull up on them as you gap.Also, as other people have said, relax, the tenser your body the worse your balance. Just sit down into the bike a bit more and don't stand up so straight Joe x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Thanks for all replies, with the advice i am getting better already! There's only two things really causing slight problems just now and that's after i kick more than 2 or 3 times in a row i can't keep the front wheel up, is there any advice to help this? And i sometimes lose sideways balance, is there any cures?Or will practise perfect both of these?And how many pedal kicks should i be able to string together before moving onto things like gapping?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 its all up to you on the numbers game, but it dont really matter, 1 or 2's ok for small safe gapping, wanna be able to do controlled static hops though, preparing you for gapping, pedal kick right ot the edge of a kurb an hop statically for as long as u can before going off the edge.also for gettin further, imagine ur bike goin wer its pointed, front wheel up, most of the energy goes up , front wheel pointing forwards a couple of inches off the ground, ur gunna go mainly forwards. so basically keep trying to static an pedal hop with the front lower,practise bringing it up an down using static hops. to get gapping nice an far, lower the front right down, to match this, ur arse will be right over the back of the bike, arms almost straight, then pedal kick, throwin urself forwards as much as u can, a lot of its body english. once ur in the air, with the bike almost vertical, straighten ur legs right out pushin the back wheel forwards into the landing, lock ur brake nice an hard, an momentum will balance u back out(first few times ull end up dropping the front right back down, but ull get the hang of hangin further back on landing an letting it balance itself out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfuzzit Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 www.trials-online.com has alot ov videoes and stuff on how to do certain stuff. Id check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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