Dan6061 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) I've got a computer in my room now, and the family one downstairs.I want to set-up an RDC so I can easily transfer files etc, and use the printer downstairs.I'm pretty sure I've got the wireless network set-up, it's called MSHOME.Both computers are connected to it (I think ) Yet when I go to RDC, I get this:[attachmentid=6994] Does this mean I haven't set it all up properly?EDIT: Forgot to turn the other PC on. I kinda need a step-by-step guide to setting it up, and be brief. Google didn't really help when I searched.. Edited September 11, 2006 by Dan6061 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) you need to have terminal services running on the target machine. I dont think it comes standard with XP pro - almost certainly doesn't with XP home. terminal services downloady thingread up on the microsoft site about how to get it started - it's not rocket scienceyou'll still need to set up shared folders and stuff to share files over the network even if you're using the RDC. Edited September 11, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Got it all working now.I put my XP cd in, and set up the networkvia that on both computers.Setting up all the shared files etc now. Cheers Poopipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Also you want full control of the other pc i recommend you use a VNC client such as UltraVNC that will give you a window with there screen on todo whatever you like. Great to have servers running on the other computers in your house so you can fix them without leaving your seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Also you want full control of the other pc i recommend you use a VNC client such as UltraVNC that will give you a window with there screen on todo whatever you like. Great to have servers running on the other computers in your house so you can fix them without leaving your seat.Which goes some way to explaining why most computer geeks are fat VNC rocks though, it's pretty simple to set up as long as you turn the damn Windows firewall off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) You can do all that with terminal services and it just seems to work better than VNC (and you dont have to turn your firewall off) ... I've tried a couple of VNC thingies and they all wanted to compress the desktop and were generally a bit shoddy and slow. however, because i'm interested - and i like the way you can move the cursor around on the target machine's screen ....Is there a version of VNC that a: doesn't look shit b: works nice and quickly Edited September 12, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme_biker0 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 You can do all that with terminal services and it just seems to work better than VNC (and you dont have to turn your firewall off) ... I've tried a couple of VNC thingies and they all wanted to compress the desktop and were generally a bit shoddy and slow. however, because i'm interested - and i like the way you can move the cursor around on the target machine's screen ....Is there a version of VNC that a: doesn't look shit b: works nice and quicklythe Microsoft netmeeting software is a form of vnc client where you can mov the cursor about and stuff.VNC is well inferior to RDP, which is a derivative of citrix. poohpipe is correct in that vnc is slower and always will be, because unlice rdp/citrix is does not communicate high-level gui information, only image information. the result is the same, but RDP is much faster.Terminal services is a standard feature in xp pro, but not xp home. However to enable more than one user to log in at once, you must replace the termserv.dll file. you can do this manually or i believe there is a file that will do it automatically for you.One final note, terminal services in xp pro contains a bug where by you need to change a reg setting to make your machine advertise itself as a terminal server on the network. obviously i don't knwo what it is off by heart, but i would have appreciated the heads-up when i was setting mine up!Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 On ultravnc that i linked you get to set the mode depending on your network connection just set it to the fasted one if you have a wired network and it will just be like using your own pc. I tried it with our wireless machine downstairs though and it sucked. Purely because wireless sucks balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 VNC is a deffo. If you can, tunnel it over SSH on a non-standard port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme_biker0 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) RDP works fine over wireless. Think of VNC as sending an image of your desktop every time it changes. Think of RDP as describing, in a small text file, what changes have been made, eg. 'button appears'. The bandwidth saving is huge.but overall yeah, wireless sucks ass. Everything is always 'best effort'. junk. Edited September 12, 2006 by Extreme_biker0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I use a thing called synergy which is a cross platform (like VNC) keyboard and mouse thing. So I control my PC with my laptop (wireless) but don't have the lag that VNC gives you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted September 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 When I want to use the printer on the computer in my room, I need the other PC on...I don't like it. Is there any possible way of accessing the network without the other computer on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme_biker0 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 When I want to use the printer on the computer in my room, I need the other PC on...I don't like it. Is there any possible way of accessing the network without the other computer on?Not really, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 When I want to use the printer on the computer in my room, I need the other PC on...I don't like it. Is there any possible way of accessing the network without the other computer on?Do you mean that the printer is connected to another computer? The simple answer is that you need the other computer (The one with the printer attached) to be on. The long answer involves getting a network-attached printer or hub - I wouldn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusional Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 RDP works fine over wireless. Think of VNC as sending an image of your desktop every time it changes. Think of RDP as describing, in a small text file, what changes have been made, eg. 'button appears'. The bandwidth saving is huge.Hell, RDP works fine over a small aDSL connection. When I was last developing stuff on windows I was able to (fairly) comfortably use RDP (over an SSH tunnel) from my home to office over a 512/256 aDSL line. Try doing that with VNC! Also, rdesktop is far superior to any VNC client I've ever had the displeasure to use on Linux. The only real use I've found for VNC on Windows is to enable to me use X2VNC, which is a tool which has really confused several co-workers in the past when I've moved my mouse pointer off the right of my linux desktop and onto my windows desktop beside it (both running on separate computers and monitors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hell, RDP works fine over a small aDSL connection. When I was last developing stuff on windows I was able to (fairly) comfortably use RDP (over an SSH tunnel) from my home to office over a 512/256 aDSL line. Try doing that with VNC! Also, rdesktop is far superior to any VNC client I've ever had the displeasure to use on Linux. The only real use I've found for VNC on Windows is to enable to me use X2VNC, which is a tool which has really confused several co-workers in the past when I've moved my mouse pointer off the right of my linux desktop and onto my windows desktop beside it (both running on separate computers and monitors).X2VNC sounds a little like Synergy. I'll have to have a look at that. I generally use VNC because I control both Windows and Linux machines, so I only have to have one piece of software installed.rdesktop - if I'm not mistaken, this allows Linux machines to connect to Remote Desktop on a Windows machine?(p.s What Linux Distro are you using? I'm a Fedora man myself..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusional Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 X2VNC sounds a little like Synergy. I'll have to have a look at that. I generally use VNC because I control both Windows and Linux machines, so I only have to have one piece of software installed.rdesktop - if I'm not mistaken, this allows Linux machines to connect to Remote Desktop on a Windows machine?(p.s What Linux Distro are you using? I'm a Fedora man myself..)Isn't any graphical remote control package a bit OTT for Linux machines? I've only ever used SSH myself, and don't really see the need for anything else. Certainly nothing else is as secure, lightweight and easy to use. Correct, rdesktop is a linux RDP client. Like all my favourite software it's very simple and lightweight. It just does what you need it to do.I'm using Gentoo. I moved over not long after it came out and haven't been tempted to use any other distro since. If for nothing else, portage is a godsend for lazy people like me! Once you understand how it all works you can forget all about dependencies, compile options, etc, etc. It's a bit of a steep learning curve at first if you're not used to getting your hands dirty, but well worth it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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