rav Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 BTBIKE looking for UK distributor:Frame BT RAVen 7.0Colour: Any (powder paint) same as BT 6.0WB 1070mmCS 365-395mmBB +20mmHead Angle: 72 degWeight 2.26 KGFrame BT RAVen 7.0 LIGHTColour: Black Anode + laser logosWB 1070mmCS 365-395mmBB +20mmWeight 2.05 KGChanges BT RAVen 7.0 compared to BT RAVen 6.0.- Lower BB +20mm, last one +45mm- NEW CNC BB Shell 68mm, last one 72mm- WB 1070mm only, last one 1065&1100mm- longer seat tube (for fix crank arm magura cylinder clerance)- fits crank arms 160-175mm any shape (magura cylinder is higher)- Horizontal DO 14mm thick + adjustable DiscTab- Magura 4bolts distance 100mm fits 48mm wide rim, last one 96mmDistributor Requirements:- Well known Bike Store & online store- VAT registeredPlease give us suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) That bike is hideous . Whats happened with select bikes?? not dealing with them anymore?? For all you straight top tube loveers...quickie done in ps. Edited September 6, 2006 by JoeMaher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I feel it would look SOOOOOOO much better if the top tube was straight!Otherwise it all seems good I much prefer this geo and the dropouts look neat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Those dropouts are from that mod arn't they, the ciguena or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 That bike is hideous . Whats happened with select bikes?? not dealing with them anymore?? As we know select bikes isn't VAT registered, polish VAT is too hight and there is hard to make good profit on NON VAT registered companys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Vox Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I agree, if that had a straight downtube itd be on my shopping list!!!Looks alright apart from that though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I don't think it's bad what so ever, looks quite nice to me and i think it will look nice al built up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Hey Rav,Tartybikes? You could try www.bikedock.co.uk They were distributing Brisa, and may have been their sole UK representative. Bikedock are second only to www.chainreactioncycles.co.uk in my opinion. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 That bike is hideous . Whats happened with select bikes?? not dealing with them anymore?? For all you straight top tube loveers...quickie done in ps.Our frame desing is unigue by some details...one of them is bended top tube.If we put on the market straight top tube frame, I'm 100% sure respond will be...another typical frame as ZHI, AORTA.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Our frame desing is unigue by some details...one of them is bended top tube.If we put on the market straight top tube frame, I'm 100% sure respond will be...another typical frame as ZHI, AORTA....Just my personal opinion. But people probably will say..oh look another so and so frame. But then they go and buy one . swings and roundabouts really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkie Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 what size disc is the mount made for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 160mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 What's with the huge disc mount holes? Doesn't that cause any issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 What's with the huge disc mount holes? Doesn't that cause any issues?its because its got horizontal dropouts spode....otherwise it would have to run a fixed rear end length with a disc......one problem i see, is that magura users will have less choice on setting the rear end length, as you cant make a 4bolt hs33 work with such a large horizontal movement.....dont many people with mods have that problem when using certain gearing?also-rav-you say its a 1070wb, but the chainstays are adjustable by 30mm, so at what length of chainstays is the rear end measured?whats the max and min wheelbase you can get? by moving the rear wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4rko Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) I never believed I'd say this for a BT product but it's wank. I believe horizontal droputs are not needed on a stock.Is magura even adjusteable on this? With 30mm moveable rear end.Still no integrated brake booster.14mm dropouts? Wil this be useable with quick release?What's the deal with light and "heavy" version?What size is this frame? What's the standover height?Is this made from U6 aluminium?Why doesn't it support 8" or 200m disc? 160mm is too weak for a stock.And finally what's the price in euros? Edited September 6, 2006 by m4rko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 its because its got horizontal dropouts spode....otherwise it would have to run a fixed rear end length with a disc......**SLAP**. Of course, I thought it might have been adjustment for different disc sizes at first.I don't think it looks horrible, but I'm not particularly attracted to it either. It just looks like a trials frame...Horizontal drop outs are useful as you can run without a rear mech on single speed. But I'd sooner have a rear mech so that it's sprung. My chain rings always end up more worn at one point from too much pedal hopping, so it goes lose/tight if it's in a fixed position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I feel it would look SOOOOOOO much better if the top tube was straight!The good thing about the bent top tube is that it at the head tube it allows the angle between the down tube to be tighter so that the weld between the two becomes longer. Because the stress experienced in this region drops off as you move away from head tube down the top & down tubes, then the further away the end of the weld is (which will act as a stress multiplier) the better. The better chance the lower stresses further away from the head tube, even when multiplied up by the stress riser by say 4x, will still be acceptable.A straight tube continuing at the same angle could mean that the resulting rear triangle is low enough that the slave cylinders collide with pedal arms.Personally I've always thought that the BT frames are built in a well thought out way to maximise their strength, and the attention to finish is great too.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 love it if i rode a 26 it would be a contender for a frame for mebike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 i like it. wish it was 1085-90 though. although what would the wb be is the backend was at 385? the disc mount is nice too. colours nice, hmm i really like it, how much is it going to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HargrovesToby Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 what is everybody saying, i think personally these new frames with horizontal dropouts are just esactly what we all need, no more silly chain mechs to get in the way when punctures occur, easy as peopleif iw as a shop, i would stock these, they are a prize component, i would be a UK distributor if i could be...!toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 There has to be SOMEONE VAT registered.... It's not hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickyw Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 That's sexual. I want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) I never believed I'd say this for a BT product but it's wank. I believe horizontal droputs are not needed on a stock.Is magura even adjusteable on this? With 30mm moveable rear end.Still no integrated brake booster.14mm dropouts? Wil this be useable with quick release?What's the deal with light and "heavy" version?What size is this frame? What's the standover height?Is this made from U6 aluminium?Why doesn't it support 8" or 200m disc? 160mm is too weak for a stock.How can you say its wank? have you ridden it? maybe it rides like a dream.Theres a lot of horizontal dropout lovers, especially street riders. So why arent they needed? Theres a mech hanger there too so whats the problem?Does the magura mount look adjustable? No, i thought not.. its welded down for christs sake, how you gonna adjust that?It says 14mm THICK dopouts, not 14mm axle width. so of course a normal QR skewer would work.The heavy version is powder coated and the light one is anodised, like most of the other things you've asked its actually mentioned in the original post.And where does it say it doesnt support a 8" disc? with the size of that dropout i'd imagine it could more than capably handle an 8" rotor.If it sounds harsh its because i'm in an irritable mood and you asked a load of questions that you could have answered yourself if you'd actually had some common sense and read the information about it properly. Edited September 6, 2006 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadly venom Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Personally I think the bike looks pretty hot! If the frame proves to be strong, reliable and a good performer I may look into getting one myself. Nice one BT! Keep Rolling,Deadly Venom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4rko Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 How can you say its wank? have you ridden it? maybe it rides like a dream.Theres a lot of horizontal dropout lovers, especially street riders. So why arent they needed? Theres a mech hanger there too so whats the problem?Does the magura mount look adjustable? No, i thought not.. its welded down for christs sake, how you gonna adjust that?It says 14mm THICK dopouts, not 14mm axle width. so of course a normal QR skewer would work.The heavy version is powder coated and the light one is anodised, like most of the other things you've asked its actually mentioned in the original post.And where does it say it doesnt support a 8" disc? with the size of that dropout i'd imagine it could more than capably handle an 8" rotor.If it sounds harsh its because i'm in an irritable mood and you asked a load of questions that you could have answered yourself if you'd actually had some common sense and read the information about it properly.It seems wank design and idea. My oppinion. I love my vertical dropouts and chaintensioner.Horizontal dropouts aren't needed because it's more hassle to set up your brakes, wheel moves if you use quick release. And after a while, your chain is going to get slack. I hang out with street riders so I know they like it, thank you very much.Are you a bit slow or what? I meant adjusteable=possible to set up with that sort of rear end. Buy a dictionary.Dear God! 14mm*2 = 28mm as opposed to let's say Simtra's 10mm*2, that's what I meant. I know my qr skewer wouldn't fit.The paint weighs 200 grams? I thought maybe it has thicker downtube or something.Felix said it supports 160mm rotor and knowing his previous connections with BT he should know what's he talking about. It does sound weird, that's why I asked about it.I don't know what's gotten you so irritated, are you paid to spread good word about BT or what?I want these ingenious ideas explained better to me so I would feel inclined to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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