piperpa28 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hello! i know its the most basic trials move but how the devil do I get up on to the back wheel and then hop from place to place? Because I am trying all different ways but I keep ending up pulling the bike up to far or going in to a wheelie!So please all help is greatly apreicated, picturess and diagrams would help loads! Thank for the help once again!Speak soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidytrials Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Two words for you mate! Pedal, brake! Hopping around like a loon with you back brake locked on wont really get you anywhere! Try learning to find your balance point. Track stand (essence of trials), then a quater pedal stroke to get your front wheel of the ground, then brake at the balance point (where you feel the front end become lite)! Then do the same again to move forward! I suggest you try and lay ur hands on tricks and stunts 1 (with the two martins and hans rey), brilliant instruction vid, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHI-sam Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) heyy.before you try anything you need to find a comfatable point on the back wheel. the further back your butt the lower the bike needs to be and visa versa. after this try these points.to hop on back wheel.1. practice doing 1 hop. try not to jump to high as you dont realy need to get a lot of air off the floor, you just need to do a small hop2. after you have one or two done keep going to see how many you can do(my record is about 19 so far)3.after you have these try to balance on back wheel as long as you can and ride off from it.4. when you have all these move onto the pedal kick.to learn the pedal kick:the easiest way i found to learn was to endo to get on back wheel and then jump a couple of times. then lower the front wheel while moving back a bit.then you should kick the pedals forward while releasing back brake (hydrolic rim i recomend such as the magura hs33) for a few seconds and try to ROLE not jump just once. after this you then use the same technique but thrust your body to the stem (not to far as could be very painful .) after you can pedal kick this way try to get on back wheel by pedaling but don't keep kicking. practice balancing there for a few seconds before attempting to jump after. soon you can try to kick onto things such as curbs and small walls. don't try anything to big as it can be dangerous and harmful to your body.hope i helped you mate. sam Edited August 25, 2006 by saracen_rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 heyy.before you try anything you need to find a comfatable point on the back wheel. the further back your butt the lower the bike needs to be and visa versa. after this try these points.to hop on back wheel.1. practice doing 1 hop. try not to jump to high as you dont realy need to get a lot of air off the floor, you just need to do a small hop2. after you have one or two done keep going to see how many you can do(my record is about 19 so far)3.after you have these try to balance on back wheel as long as you can and ride off from it.4. when you have all these move onto the pedal kick.to learn the pedal kick:the easiest way i found to learn was to endo to get on back wheel and then jump a couple of times. then lower the front wheel while moving back a bit.then you should kick the pedals forward while releasing back brake (hydrolic rim i recomend such as the magura hs33) for a few seconds and try to ROLE not jump just once. after this you then use the same technique but thrust your body to the stem (not to far as could be very painful .) after you can pedal kick this way try to get on back wheel by pedaling but don't keep kicking. practice balancing there for a few seconds before attempting to jump after. soon you can try to kick onto things such as curbs and small walls. don't try anything to big as it can be dangerous and harmful to your body.hope i helped you mate. samcheers mate you helped me loads, ive been trying to learn to pedal hop for ages from trashzen, but they make it really confusing, cheers again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHI-sam Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 cheers mate you helped me loads, ive been trying to learn to pedal hop for ages from trashzen, but they make it really confusing, cheers again your welcome mate. i find its easyer to learn off of people who have just learnt something them selves. if you need any other help let me know sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 heyy.before you try anything you need to find a comfatable point on the back wheel. the further back your butt the lower the bike needs to be and visa versa. after this try these points.to hop on back wheel.1. practice doing 1 hop. try not to jump to high as you dont realy need to get a lot of air off the floor, you just need to do a small hop2. after you have one or two done keep going to see how many you can do(my record is about 19 so far)3.after you have these try to balance on back wheel as long as you can and ride off from it.4. when you have all these move onto the pedal kick.to learn the pedal kick:the easiest way i found to learn was to endo to get on back wheel and then jump a couple of times. then lower the front wheel while moving back a bit.then you should kick the pedals forward while releasing back brake (hydrolic rim i recomend such as the magura hs33) for a few seconds and try to ROLE not jump just once. after this you then use the same technique but thrust your body to the stem (not to far as could be very painful .) after you can pedal kick this way try to get on back wheel by pedaling but don't keep kicking. practice balancing there for a few seconds before attempting to jump after. soon you can try to kick onto things such as curbs and small walls. don't try anything to big as it can be dangerous and harmful to your body.hope i helped you mate. samThat is really good advice! I will definitely be using it! Out of interest how long did it take you to be able to be fully controlled and comfortable hopping on the back wheel. I'm starting to get it after a week so hopefully be padal kicking in no time!And keep posting like that and you'll be validated soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHI-sam Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 That is really good advice! I will definitely be using it! Out of interest how long did it take you to be able to be fully controlled and comfortable hopping on the back wheel. I'm starting to get it after a week so hopefully be padal kicking in no time!And keep posting like that and you'll be validated soon im not totaly controled doing hops but i tend to pedal kick instead. i do hop some of the time when im getting my mind ready to drop something or do a gap ive never tried but thats about it realy.how long you been riding then?ive just finished editing my first video if you want to take a look. it will be in the new members chat when ive finished uploading it.if you want any more help im happy to do what i can sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty boi Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) Try kicking rolling then braking,then try putting a sharper kick in and lift your arms up thats what i did.Think about what you are doing concentrate and practise and dont give up!Adam. Edited August 25, 2006 by monty boi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 im not totaly controled doing hops but i tend to pedal kick instead. i do hop some of the time when im getting my mind ready to drop something or do a gap ive never tried but thats about it realy.how long you been riding then?ive just finished editing my first video if you want to take a look. it will be in the new members chat when ive finished uploading it.if you want any more help im happy to do what i can samI've been riding for a week on a trials bike, but been practising trackstanding etc on a mountain bike for about a month before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHI-sam Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 I've been riding for a week on a trials bike, but been practising trackstanding etc on a mountain bike for about a month before that.and your validated so well done lol.what trials bike you have then? ive bin riding for about 6 months on a saracen. heres my video link >>>>>>><<<<<<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 I'm riding an Onza t-bird just now.That's a good vid, some really good riding aswell.We need to stop chatting on here now, chat's for msn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpa28 Posted August 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Hey thanks for the advice of all who helped me I am hoping to get my cranks this week for my bike so i can practice pedal kicks and hoping on my back wheel on my own bike instead of using my m8s (lol) All the advice which I have soon has really helped me! I ask a similar question, how long did it take you to become confident hoping from point to point? Talk soon dudes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brealy Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 hmm , when i started i just backhopped till i felt comfortable with a nice balance point, all you have to do is front brake forward motion then change to a bacwards motion ( remember pull the back brake or your guna fall off! ) after that you need to release brake and have a small kick from the pedals and you go forward funny enough, its all about sync brakes and pedal all to be balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_noob Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Make sure you get comfortable hopping in the one place on the backwheel before leanring pedal kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHI-sam Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 it took me a few weeks to get it right but now im quite confident in my hopping. my frount ends a bit on the weighty side so i try not to hop for to long as i fall back down lol.(apollo wheels weigh alot lol)what cranks are you going for then? im on my 3rd crank set in 7 months and at the minuite have a middleburnglad i could help you mate.sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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