mr ailsbury Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) I'm looking to buy myself a digital SLR and I've narrowed it down to two, The Nikon D50 and the Canon EOS 350D.I think i'm going to get the Canon as i think it feels alot nicer than the Nikon and is a bit nicer to use but I'm just intrested to hear some of your opinions before I make my final decision.so could you please give me some feedback on what you think of each of these cameras?cheeerssssss Edited August 23, 2006 by mr ailsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Hughes Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 both are very good, can't go wrong with either. just pick what you prefer.there have been loads of threads asking pretty much this same question, so i'm sure there will be some useful info lying about somewhere on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'd say neither. If you can hang on a month or two, take the Canon 400D. 10.1 megapixel sensor, in camera dust removal, improved AF system taken from the 30D...You heard it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 d50 cos the 350D is tiny:P i dont like small cams anymore and i FORKING LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE my d50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 i FORKING LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE my d50.And it'll be blown into the weeds tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 sack off u big cannon bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Canon 4TW.I'd say get the 350d, I don't think there's much need for the 400d, and you'll be better off saving the extra money (especially since the 350d prices will be driven down even more!), which will come in handy for more lenses and a flashgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'd say neither. If you can hang on a month or two, take the Canon 400D. 10.1 megapixel sensor, in camera dust removal, improved AF system taken from the 30D...You heard it here first.They aren't going to undercut the 30d, surely? Maybe they would stick a pointless 10mp sensor in there, but they won't beat the 30d on other features (metering, high ISO performance blah blah blah).The 350's nice if you get on with it. The D50 is a nicer shape IMO, but the buttons are all in the wrong place. If your instinct is to go with the 350, get it. It's a good camera and takes some very nice pictures. I wouldn't worry about the "next big thing" or whatever, because you'll always be waiting. That's my theory anyway.For what it's worth, the Canon seems to come out on top of the D50 in most of the head-to-heads, but it's a very close call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Canon 4TW.I'd say get the 350d, I don't think there's much need for the 400dThe 400D is the replacement, so it'll be around 350D prices anyway - or so I believeThey aren't going to undercut the 30d, surely? Maybe they would stick a pointless 10mp sensor in there, but they won't beat the 30d on other features (metering, high ISO performance blah blah blah).Yup, it's outclassing the 30D on megapixels, but lacks features like spot metering, magnesium body, dial on the back and so on...The 30D WILL be replaced come February. The question is will it be full-frame being driven to a lower price point, or a further developments of a semi-pro 1.6 crop body. The 5D is following quite a similar path to the D60 and 10D, so it's not inconceivable that full frame will soon become a viable option... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 What about the D80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) What about the D80 got a spare £900 have we lol Edited August 23, 2006 by Si-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 The 400D is the replacement, so it'll be around 350D prices anyway - or so I believeYup, it's outclassing the 30D on megapixels, but lacks features like spot metering, magnesium body, dial on the back and so on...I think it would be a shame for Canon to jump on the Megapixel race, although it's quite possible given the new Sony which would seem to outclass the 350D on spec alone.The 30D WILL be replaced come February. The question is will it be full-frame being driven to a lower price point, or a further developments of a semi-pro 1.6 crop body. The 5D is following quite a similar path to the D60 and 10D, so it's not inconceivable that full frame will soon become a viable option...I don't see it. I know the 30D was only a small upgrade on the 20D, but it won't have even been out a year in February. But mmmm for full frame, reasonably-priced d-SLR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'd say neither. If you can hang on a month or two, take the Canon 400D. 10.1 megapixel sensor, in camera dust removal, improved AF system taken from the 30D...You heard it here first. Second for me, it was on Streetphire or Bikeguide 2 days ago or so Oh, and:From the same thread. Either way, if the EOS350D feels good to you, go for it. I love mine, just feels so ridiculously intuitive to use. Didn't even need the instruction manual and I got to know all of the features on it. A great camera (although that 400D sounds pretty rad, if you can handle the wait) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadChikken Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Heh somebody beat me to the identical post I was going to make, as want to get a dslr and learn how 2 use it well before disappearing to Aus in january. Have been mulling over both of the same cameras!Havent had a chance to pop into a shop yet and look at either, which I probably should do before making a decisionCouple of queries....First, the D60 has only been mentioned once, and from what I can gather from doing a bit of research to it a few days ago, it looks like its going to have similar specs to the D80 (i.e. 10mp 2.5" screen etc). As far as I can make out there isnt an official release date for it yet, not sure if any of you have any more info...The other one, somebody mentioned about the 400D being the same price bracket as the 350D, but when the 350D came out a year ago it was like £699....Thats a big chunk more money than it is now!One other thing, slightly off the cameras but about lenses....A lot of places do packages that come with the standard 18-55mm or equivalent lens, plus a 55-200mm zoom or the equivalent. Is it worthwhile doing this, or getting something like the Sigma 18-200mm lens which covers the whole range. From what I gather this lens has won bags of awards etc, and although its more money than the others it seems less of a hastle only having to carry around one lens!Any input welcome, the outcome of this topic will benefit which camera I end up buying aswell Cheers guysM@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Couple of queries....First, the D60 has only been mentioned once, and from what I can gather from doing a bit of research to it a few days ago, it looks like its going to have similar specs to the D80 (i.e. 10mp 2.5" screen etc). As far as I can make out there isnt an official release date for it yet, not sure if any of you have any more info...The other one, somebody mentioned about the 400D being the same price bracket as the 350D, but when the 350D came out a year ago it was like £699....Thats a big chunk more money than it is now!Yeah, but when that came out it was a year ago and the market was not so big and not as competitive as it is now. Unless it has a big jump in terms of functions then it won't be more expensive. If anything they might bring something cheap out to really compete with the d50 and Pentax IstD. But I doubt it - it'll probably come out at much the same price as the 350 is now.One other thing, slightly off the cameras but about lenses....A lot of places do packages that come with the standard 18-55mm or equivalent lens, plus a 55-200mm zoom or the equivalent. Is it worthwhile doing this, or getting something like the Sigma 18-200mm lens which covers the whole range. From what I gather this lens has won bags of awards etc, and although its more money than the others it seems less of a hastle only having to carry around one lens!Buy the camera with a standard lens and see what you need later. I have a tele lens (55-200) but I don't use it half as much as the standard lens. An 18-200 would be nice and convenient but at the price of quality I'm sure. But less hassle for sure so you have to make a decision on what you think is worth it. So yeah, just use the standard lens for a month or so and figure out if the next lens you should buy ought to be a wide angle, or a tele, or a macro, or a fast prime etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giptown Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) One other thing, slightly off the cameras but about lenses....A lot of places do packages that come with the standard 18-55mm or equivalent lens, plus a 55-200mm zoom or the equivalent. Is it worthwhile doing this, or getting something like the Sigma 18-200mm lens which covers the whole range. From what I gather this lens has won bags of awards etc, and although its more money than the others it seems less of a hastle only having to carry around one lens!Personally, from having travelling photography experience myself i would recommend the one lens rather that trying to carry around multiple lenses whilst away. It may well be pointed out that in providing such a range the Sigma is perhaps a slower lens (its largest apature size is perhaps 5.4), but in Aus this will not be a problem most of the due to bright sunlight. During my travels round South America is used simply a Sigma 18-125mm zoom and i was perfectly happy with the results, and very rarely was i limited by the performance of the lens, whereas many a time i would have been limited by having the weight of several lenses to deal with.Just my opinion based around packing light for travel photography - often you cant afford to carry alot of gear with you. Edited August 23, 2006 by giptown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Personally, from having travelling photography experience myself i would recommend the one lens rather that trying to carry around multiple lenses whilst away. During my travels round South America is used simply a Sigma 18-125mm zoom and i was perfectly happy with the resultsJust my opinion based around packing light for travel photography - often you cant afford to carry alot of gear with you.I'd certainly agree with this. It depends how much you generally you're used to carrying. The only restriction will be that you'll need a tripod for any evening or night photography.Don't forget too that you've got to have enough memory card space to ensure you can store all your photos, or find somewhere you can download them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Looks like you were right about the Canon, Chris: http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eosdigital3/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 I also read about the 400D/Digital Rebel XTi. I think everyone is releasing cameras so they cal all show them off at Photokina next month!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadChikken Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 OK guys cheers for the info, will pop into one of the shops I think and have a look. Any ideas on the release date for the 400D? it might be worth holding out to see what kinda price that is, along with the D60!The 18-200 lens I was looking at is the Sigma 18-200 F/3.5-6.3 DC lens. Seems pretty good, it won an EISA Award for best lens in 2005 aparently, so Im guessin that makes it half decent.... Lens on pixmaniaThats the lens, seen it a few places for about £250. A fair chunk considering buying a 2 lens bundle with the cameras costs less than that, but the convenience of one lens would help!Anybody find any more info on the D60?CheersM@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 To be honest what's wrong with a Kodak Disposable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 i have that lens..wooo and it has a lovely scratch on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 OK guys cheers for the info, will pop into one of the shops I think and have a look. Any ideas on the release date for the 400D? it might be worth holding out to see what kinda price that is, along with the D60!I'd expect shipping to begin end of September on past experiences. Canon tend to build up stocks and release quickly instead of announcing well in advance... I'd expect the price initally to be similar to what the 350D came in at. £650? If you're travelling, and especially if you're changing lenses, then the dust cleaning functions of the 400D will be worth their weight in gold. If you just have the one lens, then getting a 350D on clear out may well be a bit of a bargain!Edit: £549 I've seen quoted here - at the bottom of the page. Warehouseexpress.com are listing the 350D for £399. Is the difference worth £150? Upto you really...The 18-200 lens I was looking at is the Sigma 18-200 F/3.5-6.3 DC lens. Seems pretty good, it won an EISA Award for best lens in 2005 aparently, so Im guessin that makes it half decent.... EISA awards are pretty meaningless IMHO. The rule with zoom lenses is that the bigger the focal length range, the more distortion and colour problems you'll have. F6.3 is also incredibly slow and you would struggle to shoot in anything other than bright daylight. Taking into account you'll need a shutter speed of 1/500th of a second ( or 1/320th if your camera does half or third stop adjustments) to stop camera shake at 200mm, you'll also have AF problems. I believe Canon list AF functions occuring down to F5.6, after that the body with either stop AFing, or have problems.If you're after 'one lens to rule them all' then I'd suggest the Sigma 18-125 DC, you'll lose a bit on the long end, but with 8 or 10 megapixels you'll have plenty of ability to crop the image later, and still be left with a good image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 (edited) D80 is coming in at about £899 and 400D at £649 RRP. So shop around and you could get them for a bit less than that i would imagineEDIT: Those are prices with kit lens, if youre going body only i think its about £699 and £549 RRP Edited August 27, 2006 by MonsterJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 D80 is coming in at about £899 Where is the D80 available with a kit lens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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