Odinpalen Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hello everybody.Just wondering if there are any good places to read or train for trials. I am a 29 year old male. ( Sigh..)I have just found out about trials and love it. I have a Norco Evolve which is a entry level bike. I bought the Ryan Leetch video called mastering the art of trials. It is pretty good but I want to read more and learn more about the skills and how to perform them. Not just the physical steps, but the mindset you need to do the skills aswell.I wish I had known about trials 15 years ago...Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fvil Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) well to start with you need a trials bike (which you have i think)and practice the basicsbalance (track stand) etc... then you ll be off u way to do the Arts of trials good luckUm... a gd place...well i think it depends on what your practicein reallyso for trackstand i find the best place is some where like a corradoorwide enought for your bike then if u fall to the left or right you ll hav the wall to keep your self up Edited August 14, 2006 by ffdevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinpalen Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 well to start with you need a trials bikeand practice the basicsbalance (track stand) etc... then you ll be off u way to do the Arts of trials good luckYes the Norco Evolve is a trials bike. Thanks for the tip.My BikeAside from tips from readers is there any dedicated documentation or tutorials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fvil Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Yes the Norco Evolve is a trials bike. Thanks for the tip.My BikeAside from tips from readers is there any dedicated documentation or tutorials?sorry i did edit it (found out i didnt answer your question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 www.trashzen.comall you need mate good luck.zoo baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rids Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 where are you from mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinpalen Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) Sweet find! Keep em comming. I am from the City of Saskatoon in the province of Saskatchewan, Canada. Edited August 14, 2006 by Odinpalen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Wooooow, you live quite away from us then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyyman Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hello everybody.Just wondering if there are any good places to read or train for trials. I am a 29 year old male. ( Sigh..)I have just found out about trials and love it. I have a Norco Evolve which is a entry level bike. I bought the Ryan Leetch video called mastering the art of trials. It is pretty good but I want to read more and learn more about the skills and how to perform them. Not just the physical steps, but the mindset you need to do the skills aswell.I wish I had known about trials 15 years ago...Thanks.i've just startedim 41and luvin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 buy tricks and stunts really funny and does teach a lot, post your location in your profile and then you can meet up with people who will show you the basics and can go on rides with etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 You'd probobly find more like minded canadians over on observedtrials.net.While ryan leech is a fairly good rider, I wouldn't recommend his vid's to anyone just starting out. His 'manifesto' style, trying to ride without correctional hops, may be considered smooth, but it's not really a good way to learn. Once you've got the basics dialled, certainley give it a go, but f**k me it just seems so pointless and gay. Who care's if you hop on a rock twice rather than once.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sUm Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Hey it's great to see a fellow Canadian on here. As said above, Trashzen is pretty useful for describing quite a number of Trials moves. Honestly though, try watching some trials vids. There is an awesome Videos section here that often contains videos of some of the best riders in the world; these UK'ers are some skilled individuals! I've found the videos help me learn simply by mimmicking the moves as best I can, not to mention they're pretty inspiring which should help you get in the right mindset as you spoke of. Have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilman Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) Sweet find! Keep em comming. I am from the City of Saskatoon in the province of Saskatchewan, Canada.Hey dude,I would deffinatly check observedtrials.net annd also biketrial.ca it may help you find some riders around your area that you could ride with, that will help you progress and learn new moves and get you started.Matt.Edit" Observedtrials.net is the USA trials forum Biketrial.ca is the Canada trials forum Edited August 15, 2006 by Gilman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinpalen Posted August 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Thanks for all the tips. European people are very considerate and polite. Much like CanadiansThese forums are a nice find. I will check out some of the other forums listed above. Keep up with the links this is great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 These forums are a nice find. Yeah you might want to Edit this post after the first few weeksI also agree with jake, manifesto is a crap way to learn how to trials ride. When you get better ofcourse feel free.... just like to see it done consistantly on natural Trashzen as said by zoo baby is a great starter. If not maybe just watching a few euro vids could inspire you and teach you The drop gap thing is a UK thing* though, so don't worry if it seems a bit insaneOther than that enjoy *Honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsey Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 just get to grips with your bike, and start out with some nice small drops, and gaps, then of course move onto bigger things... but never run before you can walk because you will end up hurt .. and of course.. !not trying to sound rude but how comes you have 5 posts but your validated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgnoseat Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 i learned stuff in this order:trackstandbackhop (from endo) till i managed about 8 hopsnormal back hop, till about 20 hopspedal kicksidehop from 2 wheels till i got 20 inchsidehop from 1 wheel, highest is 39 inch nowpedal up, highest is 33inch nowand some random stuff like spins, you dont really need it in trials but it keeps you from getting bored from practising the same thing the whole time been riding for 4 months and a bit and i feel like its going pretty wellnot sure if it works that way for stock too though..and about places, a long wall that rises along the way (if you get what i mean, not sure how to say in english) works really well because you can try a bit higher each timeand pallets are great aswell hope this helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I never really tried to learn to trackstand - I've managed 2 years of trials without needing to stay still for more than a second or two. I generally just huck it and roll instead - or if I really have to stop, there's usually something I can prop myself up against. balance is for fags (disclaimer: i'm not suggesting this is the best way to go about learning to ride trials - it's just that you don't need to spend 6 months doing boring shit like balancing before you can progress to fun stuff like hurling yourself up big stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaya Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 38 and having a mid-life crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfw Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I started dabbling in trials about 6 years ago aged 32. I bought "Tricks & Stunts" & started off on a bog standard MTB. I've continued off & on over the years but I recently bought a trials specific frame & have started getting really into it again. I can't think of better exercise for *ahem* guys of our age! XC & downhill riders don't worry about age, so why should trials riders.Number one tip - shin guards, trust me!Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsey Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 balance is for fags (disclaimer: i'm not suggesting this is the best way to go about learning to ride trials - it's just that you don't need to spend 6 months doing boring shit like balancing before you can progress to fun stuff like hurling yourself up big stuff)balance is for people who take their time at trials and actually get good at it... balance is everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinpalen Posted August 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 The first thing I noticed with trials is how physically demanding it is. 1. Because of very poor technique, my lower back was / is killing me.2. Gripping the handle bars with 3 fingers and thumb was tuff. Oh did I mention those nasty painfullcallouses you have to get used too.3. Because of very poor technique, I had very sore wrist from landing front tire first off drops.4. Get shin guards, or be scarred for life like me. (Spiked pedals really hurt bad) And I almost broke myshin when one foot slipped and the pedal slammed backwards into my other leg. Took a while to ride that one off...5. I suggest some sort of small thin back pack with a shirt or two stuffed in it, to help cushion the blow or scrapes to your spine when you fall backwards off your bike. ( And you will ) My brake pad came loose and rotated off the rim. Not enough threads on the factory nut to keep it tight. Part replaced immediately.I am also thinking about wearing a hockey can or ( protection for your balls ) as ramming the goose neck and handle bars into your crotch could prove fatal some day??????We have not even started with the emotional aspect of trials....Any other noobs have tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Hey, i also have that Rhyn Leech dvd but i think the best way to learn and practise is by getting some mates intrested or find some local people who do trials and ride!!!.I didnt have a clew like most people when the start, but getting out and riding with friends is in my experance the best way of learning. You can keep and watching the video over and over which i spoze will help you in a way but spend some real time on you bike and i am sure you will progress well Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Pshh..Us British folk take pain like a man......Roling on the floor in pain when we've smacked our nads on the stem... Umm yeah...Getting used to callouses is fun...I might reccomend getting some Foam grips.I got some Halfords foam grips used on race bikes i think.They were really long, so I cut them in half, and they're the perfect size.If you can find some like that, then they're great!Only cost me £5.You said you're lower back is killing you? - Mine does that occasionaly (And I'm only 16), Just try sitting right up for a while, stretch for a bit, then ride for a while. Should be ok after that.. Getting your technique right is all down to practise, which I'm sure you know.I find watching other video's of a variety of different riders helps. Pretty much all 'tricks' are done the same way.Just watch them over and over, slowing it down, playing it frame by frame if you can, to see how it's all done. Then go practise!Your bike looks great for starting on!It might be worth upgrading the back brake to a Magura HS33, then buying some Trials specific pads for it.I say this becuase Magura's have so much power, that is brilliant for Trials. And then the trials specific pads (Eg, Zoo, Plazmatic CRMs, etc) are made from so many different compounds, and have been tested as much as possible to provide the lock that is needed.It may sound like more money being spent on the bike, but it will be worth it.If you don't want to spend so much on new parts, Have a look for some Plazmatic CRV pads.These are really good trials pads for V brakes.What I might have just said might have made no sense, but have a look at some online shops like TartyBikes.They are a UK based company, and are the majority of UK riders favourite shop, they might be able to ship parts out to you in Canada if you want, but don't quote me on that.Umm..yeah, as someone has already said, Trashzen is great for learning everything!Observedtrials.net might be a more suitable forum for you, as Trials-Forum is a UK based one, so it's full of us British folk. OTN (ObservedTrials.Net) is mainly used by riders in the US. Can't think of anything else to say, so just have fun riding! And I hope what i've just typed out helps you in some way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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