Greetings Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 It's been about 4 years since Koxx released the first Levelboss. And that's about when the manufacturers started producing low frames, gradually reaching the point where the top tube is straight. Then we've had the Python, another "ridiculous" design, a mod frame with the geometry of a stock bike. Then mods without bashguards, frames filled in with helium, high bb rise frames (note that the majority of the Echo frames have a very high bb). Ok, now we've got stock frames with horizontal dropouts designed for 116mm hub spacing. Millions of colourful and differently shaped parts are available only to make the life of wholesalers more tedious. Oh, and titanium frames - in this case Triton which is becoming more and more popular. And this has all happened within just a few years. Obviously, we can easily guess what trials frames/forks/components will look like in a year or two - they won't change that much. But my god, in 10 years? How popular will trials be then? How many people will be riding and how big a company will Echo be? I dread to think. One thing is certain - people aren't going to stop riding and the sport will become more and more popular and so the manufacturers will have to adapt to the demand of the market. Discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Another one of these topics, I guess i'll make the obligitory postTitanium Holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Another one of these topics, I guess i'll make the obligitory postTitanium Holes. There will be no stocks with gearing. Also all the top stock frames will have horizontal dropouts.Basicly everything will be how Deng wants it. No matter how much Ali C dislikes it, it'll happen.Maybe we'll see 90% of trials bikes with rear discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 15:22 gearing on stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 i reckon brakes will have to change alot, because they suck and disks are way to vulnerable for trials imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Frames are pretty much going to turn in to this:http://www.velostreet.kiev.ua/gallery/data...pbpic806840.jpgIts already happening as well the new koxx prototype etc... i knew the ruthless switchblade was just ahead of its time.I cant find the bike fully built up in a pic..but it had some pretty interesting ideas.. which we may see also being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 they will basicly turn into scooters (pythons)I hate developments I have gone backwards, big bash, cable brakes front and rear, shortish bike with high bars, gears, narrowish rims.............thats how a bike should be no need to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 they will basicly turn into scooters (pythons)I hate developments I have gone backwards, big bash, cable brakes front and rear, shortish bike with high bars, gears, narrowish rims.............thats how a bike should be no need to changeHaha go Ali!!Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 when did the Trials scene kick off? (like the tongue brothers, hawyes an ashton) I remember seeing them in 2001. Onza brought out the budget mods in 2000 I think, and you can really see how much the trials scene has evolved in 6 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) June 01 and hip hop was a feature in MBUK, I think it was around 98 ish or so, maybe 99haha DDg trials cranks, the same as onza shit ones, get 4/5 in a review Edited August 12, 2006 by jake1516 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickycoleman Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 One day they will design the perfect frame which has no major stress points, then there should be no need to change, However, there will still be people trying to set new fashions and so forth.I think the next thing will be rim mounted disks on the rear, I would love that almost as much as a cream tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 One day they will design the perfect frame which has no major stress points, then there should be no need to change, However, there will still be people trying to set new fashions and so forth.I think the next thing will be rim mounted disks on the rear, I would love that almost as much as a cream tea.Already been done, i think it was vario that did it... the disc rotor was basically bolted to the rim.... everyone decided it would be shit and that it would buckle too easily. I guess everyone was right as the thing was never released.Stock bikes will have 2.7 tyres and someone will have eventually figured out a way to stop pinch flats completely (i can hope so). There will be at least one echo component on everyones bikes... check now, i bet you've got one... its kind of scary when i thought about it last week.Wheels wont be built using spokes, we'll have gravitational generators that hold the rim in place and automatically correct the strength of the gravitational field to remove buckles as soon as we get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEavoLa Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 when did the Trials scene kick off? (like the tongue brothers, hawyes an ashton) I remember seeing them in 2001. Onza brought out the budget mods in 2000 I think, and you can really see how much the trials scene has evolved in 6 years or so."Dirty Tricks..." was filmed in 1997 - Hans Rey was ripping it up years before that too...the Disc-rotor-stuck-to-the-rim idea was also used on the Ruthless trials rig, as shown here:as for what i'd like to see in the next 10years?a, 100+ engagement points on a freewheel and hub (permanant engagement, basically!)b, titanium parts being a lot cheaperc, a radical new and stronger spoke lacing technique on a dishless hub matched up to an indestructable rim and a trials specific rear tyre that weighs less than an XC tyre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez.sheridan Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 June 01 and hip hop was a feature in MBUK, I think it was around 98 ish or so, maybe 99haha DDg trials cranks, the same as onza shit ones, get 4/5 in a reviewI used to buy mbuk when I started in 1998 for some of the features on ashton etc..similar to now, only one real trials type feature per mag, but now you have 'hip-hop'. My mate made me watch tricks 'n' stunts/chain reaction etc (think that was in 1999/2000 though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 b, titanium parts being a lot cheaperhaha - not going to happen - gonna get pricier i would imagineid like something other than a chain, and starfangled nut (not a headlock). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 haha - not going to happen - gonna get pricier i would imagineid like something other than a chain, and starfangled nut (not a headlock). belt drive to replace chain, seen quite a few motorbikes with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 belt drive to replace chain, seen quite a few motorbikes with themThey are incredibly strong but not too flexible so you'd use up most of the power to turn the cranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrico Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I think people will get tired of deng and go back to short bikes with low bb etc however the frames and parts will be built to a better standard so they wont crack or snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Deng will give up.And Ali C will get his own way.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Monty might actually come out with something that looks majorily differant to what they have been doing for the past, 3-4 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Pitbull Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 No need in changing most frames, cant change perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 No need in changing most frames, cant change perfection.why cant you change perfection? Take a big chunk of it out and its changed has it not?Besides current frames aren't perfect. All the weight weenies will forever be wanting a lighter bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Pitbull Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Your talking about comp frames arn't you. I dunno, how you ride not what you ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Your talking about comp frames arn't you. ermm...nope.... some street riders like light frames too?how you ride not what you ride.true, but regardless of what sport you're doing, a better standard of equipment does help to produce a better standard of performance. E.G. giving an Jenson Button (as example) an F1 car with a V6 engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Bikes will just become one bit of ali scaff bar with a magura at each end, a pair of cranks in the middle, and a pair of bars at one end.I'm waiting for someone to invent the next type of brake, nobody's done that since V's came around. It's about time we had something new.I'm placing bets on it being cable operated, whatever it is. And I bet it's a rim brake.Oh and pre-ground rims made out of some silly material that don't lose their grind.I think a more noticeable change will be in the way people ride. It's changed a helluva lot in the last 10 years, so it's scary to think about what we'll all be up to in 2016. Backflip taps, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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