monty221pr Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 many new mod frames are being build without bash plates such as the GU Typhoon or the Zoo Python is it purely to save weight or is their a real reason for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 many new mod frames are being build without bash plates such as the GU Typhoon or the Zoo Python is it purely to save weight or is their a real reason for it pretty sure its for uci trials or something i dnt see how it makes much of a difference thouth but im not totally sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 (edited) It can help with clearance under the frame as a bash guard sits lower. This means it would help for uci riding, but if see most pictures of uci competitions many people use koxx bikes which have a bash guard. It can help having a bash guard, if you know you cant clear an obstacle in a section and instead of getting a five you can hop to bash guard and get a 1 i believe it is (look in some world round videos there will be some examples), where as if you have a bash ring it is much harder to do. Thats why many people say that bikes without bash guards are more designed for street. Edited August 5, 2006 by huck_it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashby-trials Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Think about it gu typhoon's and zoo pythons etc are design for street and are classed as street bikes but i would prefer a street mod bike wIth a bash but on the gu you cant seem to fit an armoudillo on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I can fit an armourdillo on mine GU, it is a bit tight but if fits fine. It does help having a bash guard because if you muck up say backwheeling something and the rear wheel slides down, you will just land on the bash guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty221pr Posted August 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 i ride a monty so have a bashguard which i probably use my bash more in street then natural as their are alot more chances of slipping back for instance when back wheeling a railing, slipping on to a ring just throws u right of the side were as a bash plate, it sits on the rail giving a decent amount of time to dismount the bike with out injury if u are lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.powell Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I have found that they are just pointless, if they were so good, stock bikes would have them more. You just need a bit of skill to stay on the back wheel. I have found that they always weigh the frame down, rendering a drilled rim, pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsey Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 there putting them on because its what people want! and it saves the frame from alot of beating, so they last longer, so they get better reviews and more people buy them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 After riding stock for nearly 3 years then switching to mod i can safely say the bashplate is the most under rated part about mods. Its so bloody useful its unreal. If you ride natural, trying to get up a rock and f**k up going to front or back wheel. You always seem to find your bashplate has grabbed hold (yes not very uci) and from this you can switch straight back up to backwheel from the plate. This rarely every happened when i rode stock and the fact you only have a bashguard on one side means you have to balance to that side to compensate.The plate also has worked as a great frame saver when it comes to rails in general. On stock i'd find that a bail on a rail would result in a nice dent on the bottom of my down tube either that or it twats the bash and then runs off to the frame. With the bashplate it either just balances on the rail or hits and slides off, but since its longer it soaks up all of the impact resulting in no dent.I seriously cant see why people are sticking bashguards on mods.. there should definitely be more plate orientated mods out there. If its all about clearence then fair enough bur your only gaining a couple of cm at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan more Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 id rather run a bash plate for street because id allways worry about the risk of hitting my framestill i see no reason why you have to run a bash plate in comp i no a fair few riders that dont and there riding fine with out then thanks dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
python_man Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 i ride a zoo python with tensile cranks and front freewheel . i ride without a bashguard and without a bashring. i have had no problems yet. (touch wood) but i do not see the point in it all if your going to come crashing down when your back wheeling your going to come crashing down. i had a bash plate on my last bike and i split it in two. It didn't help the bike at all it just made it heavy and gave it a weak spot and finally after a few monts it cracked near the bashplate and chainstay.so to me i think they are useless i prefer my python without a bash ring it gives me more of an incentive to get up things. get up or brake your bike i find it helps a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt! Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 i think it because of the uci rules, bashpalte may becmoe in the way in a comp etc, alos the bashring probally put on for street etc.matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 I have a GU Typhoon and i ride it at bradbury and when you go for a gap and slip down to bashring it is a lot harder to keep on it than a bashplate.I was just thinking about that the other day when i was sat looking at my GU, I said to my mate why do you think a Gu and other mod frames dont have a bashplate and we come to the conclusion that these kind of frames may just be made for street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty221pr Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) i use ma bash loads in street say the wall is to high to back wheel or go straight up, their is still the option of getting up using your bash, they are especailly useful when riding thin walls as plates are the easiest option if u are going bash to backwheel and is also the reason i would have a zona not a python (BASHPLATE) Edited August 6, 2006 by monty221pr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abe Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 I also ride a GU and I find that you learn to balance the bash with the left crank,therefore having the same effect as a bash plate. I find that once you have learnt how to do this it doesnt matter wether you have a bash or a bash ring.Abe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) Lets repeat everything that everyone has repeated like 10 each, then verify it."you will probably get more clearance in UCI" well, basically, whats the need in having a bach guard in UCI... when your not even meant to use the bash "you get better balance" thats what your left had crank arm is for"i use ma bash loads in street say the wall is to high to back wheel or go straight up" Ride smaller walla intill you can backwheel that high... unless you will just learn to go to bash guard, and not to back wheel."I said to my mate why do you think a Gu and other mod frames dont have a bashplate and we come to the conclusion that these kind of frames may just be made for street" Why just for street? seeing as there isnt any trials competitions that are in the "street" trials is baised around competitions."still i see no reason why you have to run a bash plate in comp i no a fair few riders that dontand there riding fine with out then" They will probably be riding better in a few years time that what people ride bikes with a bash plate, as they have to learn how to go straight to 2/1 wheel(s) without using their bash, and therefore, learn to do bigger things. people with bash's "cheat" because they know if they fail, they are just going to hit their bash plate, when people with a guard, know if they fell, they will probably hit their frame.. making them "go for" the move alot more, and in most cases, succeed in trying that move.Thats what i think anyways UCI 4 LYF BRUVAS Edited August 6, 2006 by terror-error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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