Mark W Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Just before I post this link, feel free not to do what happens in every "drug" related thread and post that Streets song and say that 'cos Mike Skinner said it it must be true Anyway, indepedent drug report rating. Alcohol comes in at #5 most dangerous. To put that into perspective, Ecstasy is #18...Interesting how the government ignored it 'cos of the controversial results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 so now i should say to my mum "mum don't buy me a crate of beer, just buy me a ounce of weed because' its less lethal then acohol" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Interesting how the government ignored it 'cos of the controversial results?can you say tax income?i hate people who drink soley to get pissed (everyone then), it's legal though, so it must be fine...yeh whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakers O'Toole Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Seems strange that ecstacy is class A when you look at thngs like that. Same goes for LSD.Maybei should have stuck to weed rather than quiting and drinking more and smoking. Good report though, shows how stupid the class system really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Didn't read it all.I saw this and stopped: NO. OF UK DEATHS IN 2004: 16 That's complete and utter bullshit, I'd like to see exactley what it said on these 16 people death certificate's for cause of death. It certainley didn't say cannabis overdose.But, yeh, legalise drugs like cannabis which are relaivley harmless, it can then be regulated to stop people smoking shite soapbar/crazy powerfull hashes, while at the same time being taxed, meaning more money to deal with the real problem in society.Another problem I have with the media's portrayal of cannabis is the talk of 'skunk.'In amsterdam bubblehash can be bought which is basically the active ingrediant of cannabis, THC in an almost pure state, this bubbles, and burn into nothing, and is much much more powerful than any said 'skunk' here in the UK.Cannabis is not getting stronger, people are finding ways of extracting the goodness, and getting rid of the crap.Yeh, uk's drug laws are ancient, and a total waste of public money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 so now i should say to my mum "mum don't buy me a crate of beer, just buy me a ounce of weed because' its less lethal then acohol" just realised, you're 16 and your mum buys you CRATES of beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Didn't read it all.I saw this and stopped: NO. OF UK DEATHS IN 2004: 16 That's complete and utter bullshit, I'd like to see exactley what it said on these 16 people death certificate's for cause of death. It certainley didn't say cannabis overdose.But, yeh, legalise drugs like cannabis which are relaivley harmless, it can then be regulated to stop people smoking shite soapbar/crazy powerfull hashes, while at the same time being taxed, meaning more money to deal with the real problem in society.Another problem I have with the media's portrayal of cannabis is the talk of 'skunk.'In amsterdam bubblehash can be bought which is basically the active ingrediant of cannabis, THC in an almost pure state, this bubbles, and burn into nothing, and is much much more powerful than any said 'skunk' here in the UK.Cannabis is not getting stronger, people are finding ways of extracting the goodness, and getting rid of the crap.Yeh, uk's drug laws are ancient, and a total waste of public money. It's also kinda unlikely that 22,000 people died just of drinking too much though? So it may be accidents as a result of being liquored up 'n' so on, so it may be the same for that? e.g. car crashes where the driver was found to have taken cannabis in some way, shape or form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 just realised, you're 16 and your mum buys you CRATES of beer?example, but yes. some times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 NO. OF UK DEATHS IN 2004: Not many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakers O'Toole Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Maybe the cannabis deaths came from people getting the munchies and eating too many parma violets or whatever they're called. I came cloase to becoming a statistic when i bought the full box from the cornershop, don't even particularly like them either. Did produce lots of purple vomit though.At some point they will have to reclassify alot of things but it won't be for an age yet, not until people in the gerneral public really understand drugs and don't just rely on stereotypes and misinformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 NO. OF UK DEATHS IN 2004: Not many Haha, I noticed that too. Vaaaaaaaaaaaaaague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Cannabis stays in the system for almost a month, so it's virtually impossible to tell whether someone has or hasn't been under the influence. It's a while since i've actually cared about these thing's i just tend to sit back and smoke but i've posted in a forum I used to frequent regarding this and will get back with some proper info.If they have considered fatalities like you said mark, those under the influence and crashing or whatever, then the article is even more flawed, they could have at least clarified.No victim, No crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 khat really is harmless though, unless you choke on it, but then the risk is the same as a mars bar..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 those statistics really cant be very accurate at all, do they go up to every person in the street and give a quiz on their drug habits?the prices aren't accurate either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 khat really is harmless though, unless you choke on it, but then the risk is the same as a mars bar.....khat's cool - even if it does taste utterly rank. excellent for a nice day of wandering around looking at stuff - specially if you're drinking. im generally quite surprised at how low the numbers of users are - i was expecting to see a lot more cocaine, exstacy and cannabis usage than that . maybe its just the people i associate with though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 what is khat? where can i get it? what does it do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe the cannabis deaths came from people getting the munchies and eating too many parma violets or whatever they're called. I came cloase to becoming a statistic when i bought the full box from the cornershop, don't even particularly like them either. Did produce lots of purple vomit though.At some point they will have to reclassify alot of things but it won't be for an age yet, not until people in the gerneral public really understand drugs and don't just rely on stereotypes and misinformation.mmmmm parma violets mwahahaha... I would like to see the amount of violence caused by some of these drugs as well. Imagine to stoned hippies trying to have a fight .. it just wouldnt happen. The laws are bent and like america this country doesnt realise whats happening they just codone it as bad because of one death e.t.c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 what is khat? where can i get it? what does it do?poopipes khat review...it looks a bit like grass but twiggier .not sure - i've only ever bought it at festivals.it makes you go slightly faster - think really weak cocaine without the tinglies.I've only had the pleasure a couple of times but it's barely noticeable effect wise really - mild euphoria at best but if you chew on it for a whole day you don't get tired Its a bit like betelnuts or raw coca leaves in that its traditionally popular with poor hill farmers in hot places. It is addictive but I don't know of any harmful effects. In all - it's good if you want to add a little spice to your day but don't want to get whacked off your face. You can probably drive on it fine. The only real negatives are that it tastes pretty nasty and it's not really strong enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 The whole thing is insane!!!It would be easy to blame the government and say they ignore all these deaths because they are greedy for taxes, and it's probably true. Consider the fact that America went to war to avenge the deaths of 2,700 people in 9/11, yet this is only 2% of the total number who die from alcohol and tobacco use in this country each year, and still our government does nothing........ right?But the truth is if they did do something and made these substances illegal there would be public outcry. How many of you would be willing to give up alcohol or smoking, despite already knowing the possible consequences yourself. We would be saying it is our choice!!At the end of the day we are all capable of thinking for ourselves, and every day we vote with our money in our millions to keep these products on the shelves...... it's simple economics, supply and demand, we want, they supply!!Worth thinking about!Incidentally before anyone asks, I smoked and got drunk a lot from the age of 11 to the age of 20.... I now do neither!Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I wish it was £2.25 a pint down here...Anyways, i wonder how they would rate things like Salvia and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 poopipes khat review...You can probably drive on it fine. lmfao go to india...and get in a tut tut [ 3 wheeled taxi thing ] with a driver who is munching on that khat.LMAO f**k going on roler coasters the taxi journeys are much more fun..and more dangerous hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) Mmmm, salvia. Transported me to a medevil castle with a wooden cart where pink zig zags were passing through the air and my legs. I also took a trip to the desert and thought i was in comunication with aliens. Edited August 2, 2006 by rowly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Anyways, i wonder how they would rate things like Salvia and stuff.It aint gonna kill you so it's not dangerous in itself, it doesn't last long enough to offer much risk of doing something stupid - assuming you could get yourself together enough to get off your arse and hurt yourself in the first place- so it's not dangerous in that respect either.I'd rate it bloody odd and slightly scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSuave Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 300,000 cocaine users? theres more than that in my home town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 A bit pointless complaining about it. If they even tried to enforce anything to do with drugs, they'd fail misrably. This is why they use the 'scare tactic' for younger people thinking of doing drugs and yes, it does work.I know dozens of coke, heroin, cannabis users, they don't push it on to me so I don't give a f**k, their life. Rich, complaining about booze is a little different, I like to have a drink and on weekends the sole intention is to get hammered...I don't know why, it just takes your mind off things.We work the longest hours in europe, f**k all wages, no holidays, until were 65 (soon to be 68?) and people complain about the bindge drinking problem in the UK...f**k sake, damn it, lets work 7 day weeks, all hours god sends.To be honest I think the UK has bigger problems, look at teenage pregnancies, benefit cheats, unemployment levels, cost of living ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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