Sponge Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 To be honest you could still get a Stock Chris king or a Hope Pro 2 or any stock hub in there, would just involve abit of trickery, by machiining down the drive shell until it fits.I dont know if anyone knows, but Edd Potts (Dave85) machined a hope hub to fit into his mod leeson, and that seems to work rather well.I have serious doubts that most people could be f**ked to do that with their hubs Anyone care to estimate the amount of emails sent to Deng already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 If you had a splined + lockring thing for a freewheel, then it wouldn't be trying to undo the lockring like it does on the driver of a Profile. Not to mention Profile are largely complete dogwank anyway, so you can't really use the fact their hubs have many problems to complain about Deng's cranks Just seems a way better idea than having to fight freewheels on and off cranks all the time? I'm pretty sure if it became standard more companies would make freewheels for it anyway, but meh. We'll see I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Going back to frames themselves, seeing as Phil has told us that there's a Czar mod coming...Can we at all assume whether Deng's going to be bringing out even more frames? Possibly redesigned Zoo! Boa, Lynx, Piranha, or Echo Urban frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 The limits are endless, Boumsong... in a few months we'll probably see a company try doing bolt-together frames that come in several pieces.. Kinda like Lego-ing your own bike frames... how fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 The limits are endless, Boumsong... in a few months we'll probably see a company try doing bolt-together frames that come in several pieces.. Kinda like Lego-ing your own bike frames... how fun. oootelescopic kamel ? im a fecking genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 I personally believe in 5 3/8" hub spacing.My lbs had a freewheel with helical splines on. Actually, they still do. It was some french thing, which used splines and a lockring. Piss-easy to take off apparently, but the freewheel quality was shoddy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) I'm wondering if you can build a strong 26" wheel with a 116mm hub... Sure you can build a dishless wheel with these hubs, but I doubt it will be as stiff as with a 135mm hub, which has wider flanges... Edited July 31, 2006 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 The Holroyd full builds come with them, and he seems to get away with it on his bike? It'd be interesting to see how much different the widths between the flanges actually are on mod and stock hubs. Bearing in mind you don't have to have room for a cassette body on a mod hub so they can have the flange further out anyway, it may not be that much different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Yea could be... btw the 2007 frames are quite cheap, they're only 365 Euros! When they introduced the first Czars, Hifis, etc. they were like 700 Euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 It'll pretty much even out when adding a new hub, spokes and wheelbuild... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loffa Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 The flange width on the BMX King and a normal 135mm King classic is the same, as they use the same hubshell. So I think that other mod hubs are about the same width.And I don't know where you buy your frames from, Chris, but over here the Czar and Hifi frame costed a bit under 500 Eur when they first came out. Right now they are 375 Eur each from my local dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) that's weird... When the czars and hifis came out, the german Deng distributor sold them for 695 if I remember right. Some months ago the prices were lowered to 385 for the czar and 420 for the hifi... Edited July 31, 2006 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 If you look on the translated Panpa.com, on same frames they have something like: "August 5" listing, and "August 20" listing... is that anything to do with release date or anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Here in Germany the new frames are available in september... don't know if that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 If you look on the translated Panpa.com, on same frames they have something like: "August 5" listing, and "August 20" listing... is that anything to do with release date or anything?Yep.And then shortly after that here in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Splines for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 I thought i saw a new 20" Adamant being prototyped, on Saturday, at the UCI Youth Games. But obviously it wasn't because it looks completely differnt to these pictures. But i love the look of the frame. The design isn't too complex, like some other Deng frames, but just right; like the 26" Adamant's! Cheers,Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Isn't that what IISI is?With regard to the lego comment on page 3, KO bikes have allready done that, they stuck together an echo and a GU, but I know what you mean about being able to do it at home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An_toin3 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Deng has made a post on OTN concerning 116mm and other things about his new frameHi, I'm Deng. Since Ken from thetrialsinshop and HUGO from HBTrials told me 116mm frame space is a totally bad idea, I think I should come here to see what people think about. Now I see most of people don't like it. But the main reason is the frame don't accept the KING hub. Some something I want to say:1)116mm frame space is not new to trials. All 20" trials bikes with CNC dropout have same space. 116=110(standard bmx hub)+2*3(snail plate thickness). So you can choice the hub you want.2)Why the same system is ok for 20" rim and tire, but not 26"? Just because the wheel is bigger?3)These frames are MOD 26". Not a STOCK bike. It's different concept. Of course they can't accept XC hubs. They are trials only design. If you don't want to have a 26" MOD bike, these are not for you. But if you want a bike better for trials, 26" MOD are much better than 26" STOCK. Because these frames are special design for trials use.4)The wheel with MOD bike hub is stronger than 135mm XC hubs which with cassette body, because Mod bike hub DO have wider flage, the rim is at the middle of the hub shell. 5)I would like to say the advantage of the MOD 26"a. Shorter hub axle is much stronger. wheels with mod bike hub is strong.b. Without hub cassette body / cassette cogs / derailleur / chain tensioner is lighter. c. Don't have to worry to hit the derailleur and tensioner and crack the hanger when doing sidehop.d. Straight chain stays and seat stays give a non flex rear end. More powerful.e. The bike looks very clean and simple.The result is stronger; lighter; less worry; less flex; clear looking. Why we don't make it? After all 26" MOD available, we will make some 26" STOCK frames for people just want to continue ride a STOCK bike.Any idea? Don't say F##K S##T any more, please.DengOnly thing I'm not pretty sure about is the 116mm spacing I don't mind Horizontal Dropouts ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) Deng has made a post on OTN concerning 116mm and other things about his new frameOnly thing I'm not pretty sure about is the 116mm spacing I don't mind Horizontal Dropouts !Deng seems adamant on his decision. New era begins Looks like Profile hubs are gonna be sold out quite fast... Edited August 1, 2006 by Sponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 What an idiot."25.34 inch wheel for quick ride for strong for yes. motorbike forks for flex jump high!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Deng seems adamant on his decision.Looks like Profile hubs are gonna be sold out quite fast... Yes!! That means Ive _pwned mark in the try-all freewheel thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Deng sounds like a man with a plan. And i think he's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Interesting hearing how he views the whole trials market and stuff though, plus the whole "It's not a stock, it's a big mod" sorta thing.Should be interesting seeing how this all plays out...And Partz - I don't get how, but you haven't anyway EDIT: Maybe this means Deng will sort his shit out with the "mod" cassette hubs then, if he's relying on his stock bikes running them now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) he has the new zoo, echo, gu, adamant MOD freehub rear hubs though. which has internals as the profile, just different bearings. thus i imagine people may buy these. Edited August 1, 2006 by ben@hulltrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.