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To be honest you could still get a Stock Chris king or a Hope Pro 2 or any stock hub in there, would just involve abit of trickery, by machiining down the drive shell until it fits.

I dont know if anyone knows, but Edd Potts (Dave85) machined a hope hub to fit into his mod leeson, and that seems to work rather well.

I have serious doubts that most people could be f**ked to do that with their hubs :rolleyes:

Anyone care to estimate the amount of emails sent to Deng already?

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If you had a splined + lockring thing for a freewheel, then it wouldn't be trying to undo the lockring like it does on the driver of a Profile. Not to mention Profile are largely complete dogwank anyway, so you can't really use the fact their hubs have many problems to complain about Deng's cranks :P Just seems a way better idea than having to fight freewheels on and off cranks all the time? I'm pretty sure if it became standard more companies would make freewheels for it anyway, but meh. We'll see I guess ;)

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The limits are endless, Boumsong... in a few months we'll probably see a company try doing bolt-together frames that come in several pieces.. Kinda like Lego-ing your own bike frames... how fun. :mellow:

ooo

telescopic kamel ?

im a fecking genius.

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I personally believe in 5 3/8" hub spacing.

My lbs had a freewheel with helical splines on. Actually, they still do. It was some french thing, which used splines and a lockring. Piss-easy to take off apparently, but the freewheel quality was shoddy...

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I'm wondering if you can build a strong 26" wheel with a 116mm hub... Sure you can build a dishless wheel with these hubs, but I doubt it will be as stiff as with a 135mm hub, which has wider flanges... :ermm:

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The Holroyd full builds come with them, and he seems to get away with it on his bike? It'd be interesting to see how much different the widths between the flanges actually are on mod and stock hubs. Bearing in mind you don't have to have room for a cassette body on a mod hub so they can have the flange further out anyway, it may not be that much different?

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The flange width on the BMX King and a normal 135mm King classic is the same, as they use the same hubshell. So I think that other mod hubs are about the same width.

And I don't know where you buy your frames from, Chris, but over here the Czar and Hifi frame costed a bit under 500 Eur when they first came out. Right now they are 375 Eur each from my local dealer.

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:S that's weird... When the czars and hifis came out, the german Deng distributor sold them for 695 if I remember right. Some months ago the prices were lowered to 385 for the czar and 420 for the hifi... Edited by Chris
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If you look on the translated Panpa.com, on same frames they have something like: "August 5" listing, and "August 20" listing... is that anything to do with release date or anything?

Yep.

And then shortly after that here in the UK (Y)

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I thought i saw a new 20" Adamant being prototyped, on Saturday, at the UCI Youth Games. But obviously it wasn't because it looks completely differnt to these pictures.

But i love the look of the frame. The design isn't too complex, like some other Deng frames, but just right; like the 26" Adamant's! (Y)

Cheers,

Joe.

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Deng has made a post on OTN concerning 116mm and other things about his new frame

Hi, I'm Deng. Since Ken from thetrialsinshop and HUGO from HBTrials told me 116mm frame space is a totally bad idea, I think I should come here to see what people think about. Now I see most of people don't like it. But the main reason is the frame don't accept the KING hub.

Some something I want to say:

1)116mm frame space is not new to trials. All 20" trials bikes with CNC dropout have same space. 116=110(standard bmx hub)+2*3(snail plate thickness). So you can choice the hub you want.

2)Why the same system is ok for 20" rim and tire, but not 26"? Just because the wheel is bigger?

3)These frames are MOD 26". Not a STOCK bike. It's different concept. Of course they can't accept XC hubs. They are trials only design. If you don't want to have a 26" MOD bike, these are not for you. But if you want a bike better for trials, 26" MOD are much better than 26" STOCK. Because these frames are special design for trials use.

4)The wheel with MOD bike hub is stronger than 135mm XC hubs which with cassette body, because Mod bike hub DO have wider flage, the rim is at the middle of the hub shell.

5)I would like to say the advantage of the MOD 26"

a. Shorter hub axle is much stronger. wheels with mod bike hub is strong.

b. Without hub cassette body / cassette cogs / derailleur / chain tensioner is lighter.

c. Don't have to worry to hit the derailleur and tensioner and crack the hanger when doing sidehop.

d. Straight chain stays and seat stays give a non flex rear end. More powerful.

e. The bike looks very clean and simple.

The result is stronger; lighter; less worry; less flex; clear looking. Why we don't make it?

After all 26" MOD available, we will make some 26" STOCK frames for people just want to continue ride a STOCK bike.

Any idea? Don't say F##K S##T any more, please.

Deng

Only thing I'm not pretty sure about is the 116mm spacing :ermm: I don't mind Horizontal Dropouts !

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Deng has made a post on OTN concerning 116mm and other things about his new frame

Only thing I'm not pretty sure about is the 116mm spacing :ermm: I don't mind Horizontal Dropouts !

Deng seems adamant on his decision. New era begins :ermm:

Looks like Profile hubs are gonna be sold out quite fast... :shifty:

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Interesting hearing how he views the whole trials market and stuff though, plus the whole "It's not a stock, it's a big mod" sorta thing.

Should be interesting seeing how this all plays out...

And Partz - I don't get how, but you haven't anyway :P

EDIT: Maybe this means Deng will sort his shit out with the "mod" cassette hubs then, if he's relying on his stock bikes running them now?

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