MadManMike Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Modify the bike so it's not a bicycle - put a 3rd wheel on - tiny as you like, then it's a tricycle - no plates, no hassle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod_rider Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 God this country does my head in. Was in France last week, and they don't even have to have a number plate on 50cc mopeds, and now they're considering number plating bikes. They'll be making us have insurance next, and you have to take a test before your allowed to ride your bike outside your back garden.Britain's going mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaZaa Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Why dont they just spend the money on making london more cycle friendly?Theyre mental these people, ride on the road and get wiped out by a bus one way and a cab the other. Maybe thats a bit far fetched but if theyre going to make laws like that they may as well make it slightly more user friendly for cyclists and try reduce the number of vehicles in the main centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 When do you think we'll be having cycle licences? Well, anyone who is just bothered about there trials bike is fine. There is no place to mount the plate to the rear and shoot me if Koxx and co. start making frames with number plate mounts. If it does go through ((hopefully) that's a mother ****er of a huuuuuge if) it'll just be like road motorbikes and motor trials bikes, BMXs, cycle trials bikes, DH etc will just be road illegal.Meh, at least it's in London\not on the IoM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Its impossible to implement such ideas without the proper cycling framework or infrastructure inplace.If London was more like Holland or Belgium then it would be feasible.First there needs to be a proper cycle path network.Drivers need to be re educated about how to use the road with such cycle networks inplace.The laws need to be changed.Then when its safe for people to cycle I gree there sould be a proper test like for driving a car but it shuldn't cost an arm and a leg but cyclists shouldnt be taxed for usingt he road as their not the ones destroying the world, they may be some other way but thats a different story.Cyclists should have to get their bike serviced every 6 months and prove it but ti should be free to start with and then if cycling takes over then it should cost, and lets face it the car will always win and be the dominate force on our roads.Theres so many things wrong with those ideas and so much more that needs to be put inplace beforeit can even be implemented successsfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 I just really don't understand the mixed messages though. We're all supposed to ride to work 'cos that way we aren't raping the Earth and we're being healthy (and not subject to congestion charges ), but now they want to make it harder to just get on your bike and ride somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 When his was on the news didn't ken himself say that it was unlikely that this would go through but they were considering doing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) shall we get a petition going? best oppose it now while it isnt in place rather than let it go through. will be harder to get rid of the law then, especially if they're making money off it.http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html Edited July 31, 2006 by mat hudson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 If that ever happened around hull id just not register and avoid the police, not like there lurking round every corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Dibs on L0LZ0RZThis won't go ahead anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 DIBS on B3N TR4V15 H45 4 B1G C0CK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) this country is one massive piece of shit joke run by money hungry power crazy f**kers i hate it ! new zealand for me get the hell out of this shit hole!Been there, done that Glad I dont live in london. It'd be great fun if you lost your licence.It just seems more of a ploy to put up more CCTV cameras Edited July 31, 2006 by Jaffacakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 First there needs to be a proper cycle path network.There really should be anyway, its not safe to have cyclists going down londons roads. There are quite a few in my area but som of them are just plain idiotic, theres one cyclec path that is only twice the length of my bike and to get to it you have to cut up onto the normal path ride along it then get back on the road again, its on a corner as well for good measure.Cyclists should have to get their bike serviced every 6 months and prove it but ti should be free to start with and then if cycling takes over then it should cost, and lets face it the car will always win and be the dominate force on our roads.Theres no way that should happen. I'm not going to pay to have my bike serviced every 6 months when i'm perfectly capable of servicing it myself.Plus theres also the fact that if bikes are registered with number plates they'll need to have a description of the bike on record. Now for us that just isn't going to happen because the speed most of us change the parts on our bikes we'd be ringing them up all the time letting them know we've got new bars or changed the frame or bought new cranks or something. Theres too much to do to make it all work, and the government is pretty lazy/slow about getting things done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Then when its safe for people to cycle I gree there sould be a proper test like for driving a car but it shuldn't cost an arm and a leg but cyclists shouldnt be taxed for usingt he road as their not the ones destroying the world, they may be some other way but thats a different story.Cyclists should have to get their bike serviced every 6 months and prove it but ti should be free to start with and then if cycling takes over then it should cost, and lets face it the car will always win and be the dominate force on our roads. Why the hell do you think that, or would you ever think that? People have been happily trundling around on bikes for 100 years, so why do people suddenly need to have their bike serviced every 6 months and shit like that? It's a totally different state of affairs to cars. If, say, your brakes failed on a car, you're in a big, 1 tonne metal box travelling at high speed. If your brakes somehow failed on your bike, you're your weight + 15kg or so, travelling a lot slower, and you're a lot smaller so you're not going to wipe out all the people aroudn you. That's just one example, but what I mean is that bikes can run for bloody ages without stuff f**king up on them. People's commuter bikes can just run and run with just a bit of lube on the cables and chain once in a while, so why f**k people about by making them have to have their bike serviced every 6 months? There is no need for it at all. If you're saying it should be free as well, what bike shop is going to want to service London's bikes for free? If you want the government to subsidise it, seeing as bikeshops charge between £20-35 hourly labour, that's a shitload of cash you're expecting them to pay out just for a needless service on a bike. Bikes will "never win" as you put it if you make it harder for people to just dust off their old rigid cheapy bike and pootle off to work on it, or through the park or whatever, so why are you making it harder to do? Kids like playing on bikes, so why should it be harder for them to do that? If kids of 2 or 3 can ride a bike, why do we need to instigate some sort of test to prove you can ride it? Isn't that the whole point of cycling proficieny anyway, to give people an idea about how to do it? Either way, again, it's a totally different state of affairs to cars - there are loads more little rules to do with car operation than bike operation; stuff like the way you have to put dipped beam on if you turn on your windscreen wipers, the way you have to check your mirrors if you're pulling out of a junction, etc. - it's just totally different and incomparable.Seeing as you've ridden a bike for over 3 years at least now, how are you still that incapable of thinking about the differences between cars and bikes, and what makes bikes so great as a means of commuting or enjoying yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Braker Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Exactly.Atleast im not from london Anyways, whats so big of a deal about riding on the path? it isnt asif we have EVER killed anyone by riding into them.. we can barly go over 10mph I have hit someone but not killed them and it was quite fast but if we have number plates so motorists can see us to report us of jumping lightsand stuff like it, that means we must have a front and rear visable plate not ones in the wheel and if its for motorists to see they must be of some size.Where would they go on trials bike as they could be but on seatposts of normal bikes. Bad idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Not necessarily forward facing ones, as motorbikes don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Braker Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 True :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Dibs on PaRtZ btwit won't happen, but i think it would be amusing to see it happen. And whoever it was who said about it being complelty illegal *ahem* riding on the pavement IS illegal. Flowerbeds, signs, benches are even more illegal so technically we're F*cked at the momentJesus everyone, stop worrying lol. I highly doubt trials bikes can travel faster than 30mph to be honest and as for jumping red lights? At a busy junction you won't live long enough to be prosecuted unless they scrape you off the road within the first hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Hahaha, I love how when I read this thread there was a Google ad for personalised plates or some shit like that on in the ad banner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br3n Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 wish the people in power lived in the real world.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 vote torry david cameron cycles to work every day so he'll never pass any off these shitty laws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Dibs on 09R3I find this all prety funny, i mite go pester my local mp later on now you think all the DHers etc will have a second set of plates for when there riding illegally (dibs on W4NK3R if so) but shit me that is rediculous! and i;m not sure who mentioned 1984 but i agree britain is definatley following that path also what happened to the fat tax? maybe we should have sticky for silly government hoo ha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Before I say anything I just want to say that yes it is a load of complete and utter b*llocks and Ken Livingston doesn't live in the real world.... he is a moron.... end of!BUTSo what if it does become legislation?!? I mean who really cares? It's already legislated that we can't ride on the pavement without getting a fine and we all do, and it's already legislated that we should have lights on our bikes at night otherwise we get a fine and none of us do, so how is this any different?It's just another minor offence that most police officers can't be arsed to fill out paperwork for so the worst you would get is a fine and more than likely just a telling off!Not saying it's ok what Ken is saying, it's really not, like I said he is a moron, but just saying don't worry yourselves about it, street trials is illegal anyway so we're all going to hell Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 i'd hate to break up this lovely little bitch fest, but it said london bikes, how many of you commute in london on a daily basis?i'm guessing not many, this probably applies more to couriers and commuters more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 I will be, and I'll be riding street in London during daytime hours too, so it'd affect me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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